NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants

Re:NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants by tptacek on Sunday June 16, 2013 @01:46AM (#5887589)

Yes, I have an ethical problem with doing the kind of work I do for defense contractors or for the USG. I'm not saying that doing work for USG, or even software security work for them, or even offensive software security for them is prima facie unethical; I only know that I don't feel qualified to navigate the ethical quagmire, and thankfully am not required to do so.

I'm also not a defender of the state. However, of the subset of HN users who are noisy enough to remember by name, I'm probably the most statist; believing in the utility of law enforcement probably puts me just slightly to the left of center among noisy HN'ers.

In the real world, I'm a liberal.

Be careful about assuming that you know what's in the heads of other people just from how they comment on HN. The things that spark arguments on HN aren't a realistic cross-section of policy debates in the real world.

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Re:NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants by etherael on Sunday June 16, 2013 @03:28AM (#5887773)

That's why I seek to clarify, I know I don't know what's in your head. All I can know is what I see.

For the record, there is no doubt in my mind that rayiner is a hell of a lot more of a statist than you.

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Re:NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants by rdl on Sunday June 16, 2013 @04:12AM (#5887833)

Presumably doing Matasano-type appsec work for DoD if it were for internal DoD software would be fine (i.e. making sure the VA's medical records system is relatively secure against outside threats)?

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Re:NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants by tptacek on Sunday June 16, 2013 @11:56AM (#5888813)

We don't do work like that.

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