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Re:NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants by tptacek on Sunday June 16, 2013 @01:23AM (#5887547)
Dude. Provide evidence for extraordinary claim. I'm all ears. Also: this content vs. metadata thing? Also I think a red herring: they don't have full metadata access from Google Mail either.
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Re:NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants by pradocchia on Sunday June 16, 2013 @01:57AM (#5887609)
This is an exercise in synthesis, not analysis--akin to reading tea leaves. By all means, keep two ledgers: a) claims with hard evidence, and b) suppositions on a tree of conjecture. Though again: having informed opinions on secret programs is structurally a fools errand. Better keep that ledger quarantined, and look for new fruit on the tree of conjecture. You would be well equipped to capitalize on it.

EDIT, quick, and not to make a thread of it: a) NSA is the referent to tea-leaves, not you; b) the rest is advice; and c) lol.

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Re:NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants by tptacek on Sunday June 16, 2013 @02:01AM (#5887614)
YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT! This Chinaman is not the issue, Dude.
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Re:NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants by throwaway10001 on Sunday June 16, 2013 @03:03AM (#5887731)
they don't have full metadata access from Google Mail either.

And you know this...how exactly? I can't say they do but it wouldn't surprise me. To say that they don't however is a different story. What's the difference between phone metadata http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/06/06/nsa_veriz... and email metadata? Why one is OK and the other is not, assuming NSA goes to court to get them? In fact, emails over 180 days have very little protection.

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