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Re:Ask HN: Shortest path to $1 million? by eli_gottlieb on Saturday June 15, 2013 @04:42PM (#5886240)
How conservative is 3% above inflation?

Also, who, even in the high salary brackets, can save $50k/year?

Re:Ask HN: Shortest path to $1 million? by mechanical_fish on Saturday June 15, 2013 @06:32PM (#5886510)
3% is fairly conservative: According to the calculator here:

http://www.moneychimp.com/features/market_cagr.htm

...over the last 40 years an S&P 500 index fund had annualized returns of 10% before inflation adjustment, 5.5% adjusted for inflation. That's, like, twice as good as my guess! And no need to invest in real estate for that: That's a Vanguard index fund.

Of course, over the last ten years the equivalent annualized return is only 1.5%, which goes to show you that (a) depressed global economies are no fun and (b) there is some rationale behind my choosing to use a more conservative number.

As for "how does one manage to save 50k per year?", the sad answer is that I don't, and most of us probably don't. But many tech workers could, in theory. The median income in San Francisco is "only" $42k:

http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2011/03/07/bay-area-tops-s...

More than half the people in SF are staying alive somehow on less than $50k per year. Figure out how to live like them and it might not be hard to save $50k per year... if you have a Bay Area developer's salary. Which, obviously, is not the case for everyone.

Also, making an additional $50k per year is a reachable goal, relative to most get-rich-quick schemes. It's $4200 per month. The OP is halfway there, with one $2k/mo product.

Re:Ask HN: Shortest path to $1 million? by jimminy on Saturday June 15, 2013 @04:57PM (#5886275)
I've been running the numbers for myself, while looking into moving to SF. With current tax rates (state and federal) considered, for me as an individual being able to save/invest $50k/year would be around $100-110k salary mark.
Re:Ask HN: Shortest path to $1 million? by chiph on Saturday June 15, 2013 @05:39PM (#5886370)
Housing expenses (especially in SF area) make that really tough. But if you're married with both of you working, only have one (used) car, and both of you live frugally, it can be done.
Re:Ask HN: Shortest path to $1 million? by icedchai on Saturday June 15, 2013 @05:02PM (#5886282)
i've done it consistently for the past 10 years. if you have some discipline, set up automatic investments, it's easier than it sounds.
Re:Ask HN: Shortest path to $1 million? by eli_gottlieb on Sunday June 16, 2013 @07:08AM (#5888112)
I already have a 401(k) and a normal brokerage account through Vanguard, invested in a few good index ETFs. I set it up a few months ago and I remember there's some paperwork I still have to find and handle, but mostly I haven't looked at it.

When I'm actually making money I can transfer into American dollars again, I'll be dumping some fixed amount of it straight into those accounts for investment.

However, I currently make far less than $50k/year due to being a grad-student, so it's not like I can save nearly that much.