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Re:What is Microsoft smoking? by robotresearcher on Thursday June 13, 2013 @07:12PM (#5877245)
"IBM manufactures lots of hardware"

I bet MS makes and sells more hardware. XBox alone must outnumber all IBM hardware sales. (ThinkPad hasn't been IBM for several years now).

Re:What is Microsoft smoking? by astrodust on Thursday June 13, 2013 @10:03PM (#5877890)
I didn't have time to dig for really accurate numbers, but Microsoft's Xbox sales, which might include revenue from game developers as well as hardware, was about $9.6B for FY 2012. (http://www.microsoft.com/Investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earn...)

IBM's system hardware revenue for FY 2012 was $17.6B. (http://www.ibm.com/annualreport/2012/bin/assets/2012_ibm_ann... page 30). IBM also manufactures components and licenses hardware designs, such as the CPUs used in the PS3 and Xbox 360.

Microsoft is still not as big a hardware player even compared to an IBM that has sold off a good chunk of their hardware manufacturing.

Re:What is Microsoft smoking? by robotresearcher on Saturday June 15, 2013 @11:38PM (#5887350)
I stand corrected, thanks. I often underestimate the crazy money still being made in IT infrastructure. This will teach me.