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Re:A.C.L.U. Files Suit Over Phone Surveillance Program
by rayiner on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @08:13PM
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Its not a matter of it being a lesser or greater country. Its the matter of it being a different country. There is no "murder" in the state of nature. Nothing limits our use of force other than our bargaining away that natural ability when we form societies. But the fact that Americans have bargained that away with respect to each other does not mean we have done so with respect to non-Americans not on our soil.
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Re:A.C.L.U. Files Suit Over Phone Surveillance Program
by carbocation on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @09:17PM
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Not really. China has the apparatus to apprehend a person such as al-Awlaki. It has nothing to do with greater or lesser.
Emphatically, I am not saying this in defense of the assassination of al-Awlaki, but instead I am saying this because I believe it to be a simple truth that is related to the case.
The issue with al awalki was that we were bound, because as a citizen he was party to our social contract. That said, the constitution requires "due process" not a trial in every case. Al awalki was in a place where we could not effectively capture him and give him a trial (he had the option to submit to process by turning himself in-- he was wanted for years).