The Smears Against Edward Snowden Have Begun

Re:The Smears Against Edward Snowden Have Begun by jessaustin on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @01:08PM (#5863166)

Talk about "one sided". When innocent people die from gunshot then it isn't "editorializing" to call it "murder". There is no reasonable definition of murder that does not include that incident. It's pretty clear where your loyalties lie, and you aren't going to convince reasonable people to doubt Snowden's account with this namby-pamby whinging about his choice of idiom. Neither will reasonable people believe you're prepared to be "sad" about "a terrible incident" that you wish had been kept secret.

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Re:The Smears Against Edward Snowden Have Begun by stinkytaco on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @01:16PM (#5863215)

>that you wish had been kept secret.

At what point did I say that? At what point did I defend anyone involved? It was a battle. People were shooting at each other. Of course there is a reasonable definition that doesn't include this incident. Ones in which there is not a battle going on, for example. There are at least 20 minutes of footage that are not available to us.

All I'm asking is that we get rid of the idiom and see the information. I don't need the words "Collateral Murder" to be outraged by this. I'm smarter than that.

Incidentally, at no point in this discussion did I ever resort to a personal attack on you or question your motivations or loyalties. At no point did I ever say anything about you personally and I'm offended that you have decided to tell me what I think. That's a shameful way to have an argument.

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Re:The Smears Against Edward Snowden Have Begun by foobarqux on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @01:54PM (#5863499)

Can you explain the argument of how the killing of the man in the bongo truck is not murder and a war crime?

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Re:The Smears Against Edward Snowden Have Begun by jessaustin on Wednesday June 12, 2013 @03:05PM (#5869952)

That's a shameful way to have an argument.

Boo-fuckin-hoo. Get a grip, Nancy.

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