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Re:NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor by flyinRyan on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @10:36AM (#5861989)
I'm confident that that will not be the answer. That and "hate us for our freedoms" are popular for war mongers because there is apparently no solution besides continuing to bomb them. But is it possible they have legitimate grievancences? Is it possible that they're human beings who are pissed off about something we're doing or have done?

The saddest part is, we appear to have learned literally nothing since our handling of native Americans. It's disgusting.

Re:NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor by Peaker on Tuesday June 11, 2013 @07:19PM (#5865385)
There are plenty of fundamentalists in the world for whom the reason is indeed religion.

You're engaging in wishful thinking.

Re:NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor by flyinRyan on Wednesday June 12, 2013 @07:00AM (#5867456)
This is what you believe, this is what people who benefit from you believing that are telling you but it's nonsense. There may be poor fundamentalists who would gladly kill for religion but they have no ability to act on it. Only the rich and powerful have that capability and they're also better educated.

If you truly believe there are a group of people for whom religion is enough to make them want to kill, then the solution would be education and financial investment. Middle class people make poor martyrs. The idea that the only thing that can be done is murder them is sickening.

Re:NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor by Peaker on Wednesday June 12, 2013 @07:48AM (#5867576)
There have been plenty of middle class martyrs.

There are many religious people who openly explain that freedom is evil, and everyone should convert to Islam or face death.

You're essentially claiming that I am brainwashed, and you know the real truth instead. I'd like to claim the opposite.

Re:NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor by CamperBob2 on Wednesday June 12, 2013 @09:48AM (#5868023)
I think he just hasn't been paying attention. ("Middle class martyrs" have if anything been the rule rather than the exception in many scenarios.)