Re:Inside the NSA's Ultra-Secret China Hacking Group
by malandrew on Monday June 10, 2013 @10:35PM
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Having lived in both I see it this way:
(1) In China, if you do something the government doesn't like, they'll jail you for that. The reason for jailing is transparent, regardless of whether that reason is just and respects human rights.
(2) In the US, they will more or less follow due process, bending it as far as they can without getting a case thrown out for technical reasons. If they can't charge you with a crime for those actions you performed that they are unhappy about, they will find other charges that are more likely to stick no matter how unrelated. They will then use those charges to coerce you into a plea bargain.
When you have this much information on people, you can be jailed whenever someone doesn't like your actions, because they can find something that will stick or at least ruin your reputation and/or finances.
tl;dr; China has a perverse system. The US has a system that can be perverted.
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime.”
- Lavrentiy Beria, head of Joseph Stalin's secret police
(1) In China, if you do something the government doesn't like, they'll jail you for that. The reason for jailing is transparent, regardless of whether that reason is just and respects human rights.
(2) In the US, they will more or less follow due process, bending it as far as they can without getting a case thrown out for technical reasons. If they can't charge you with a crime for those actions you performed that they are unhappy about, they will find other charges that are more likely to stick no matter how unrelated. They will then use those charges to coerce you into a plea bargain.
When you have this much information on people, you can be jailed whenever someone doesn't like your actions, because they can find something that will stick or at least ruin your reputation and/or finances.
tl;dr; China has a perverse system. The US has a system that can be perverted.