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Re:Has the US become the type of nation from which you have ... by otsuichi on Monday June 10, 2013 @10:49AM (#5854765)
An interpretation of the word "reasonable" is literally all discussions of the 4th Amendment have ever come down to, you can't pretend like someone with a narrower scope or "reasonableness" is just haggling over semantics and nitpicking tiny details.
Re:Has the US become the type of nation from which you have ... by rayiner on Monday June 10, 2013 @10:58AM (#5854828)
My point is that he's arguing about precisely where the line should be drawn, not offering an example of the police engaging in clearly unreasonable conduct. You can't claim that the 4th amendment has fallen by the wayside just because you disagree about precisely where the courts have drawn the lines in edge cases. You need some stronger evidence than that.
Re:Has the US become the type of nation from which you have ... by otsuichi on Monday June 10, 2013 @01:39PM (#5855829)
I think, looking at the facts of Kentucky vs. King, that's pretty clearly a concise example of the police engaging in unreasonable conduct.
Re:Has the US become the type of nation from which you have ... by md224 on Monday June 10, 2013 @03:15PM (#5856490)
Actually, I'm not so sure, after reading this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance_in_United_...

Of course, it all comes down to how reasonable you think our current criminal law policies are.