Re:Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?
by jacques_chester on Monday June 10, 2013 @12:23AM
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"Everybody's doing it!" isn't really a good excuse once you turn about 12 years old.
Re:Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?
by snowwrestler on Monday June 10, 2013 @12:41AM
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I'm not making an excuse. If the theory is that folks will pull out of U.S.-based cloud services, then the question is, where would they go instead?
The U.S. data-mining program has been revealed. I would not assume the lack of revelations from other nations is definitive proof that those nations aren't doing similar things. In the absence of data it is very easy to make convenient assumptions.
Re:Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?
by jacques_chester on Monday June 10, 2013 @12:43AM
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True.
The old rules still apply. If you can't afford someone else to know something, you have to encrypt it in motion and at rest.
Re:Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?
by flyinRyan on Monday June 10, 2013 @04:38AM
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>But what the U.S. NSA is doing is sifting data for connections to foreigners who are suspected of being terrorists.
Demonstrably false. All of the terrorist laws are mostly used for drug enforcement and the like. They get nearly no terrorist usage because there are nearly no terrorists.
Re:Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?
by Sami_Lehtinen on Monday June 10, 2013 @01:09AM
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At least Sweden is publicly and legally doing it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRA_law
Re:Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?
by Sami_Lehtinen on Monday June 10, 2013 @09:19AM
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At least Sweden is openly telling that FRA is allowed to legally monitor all international network traffic.
But what the U.S. NSA is doing is sifting data for connections to foreigners who are suspected of being terrorists. I would be shocked if Euro intelligence agencies are not doing the same thing.