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Re:Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of N... by Nrsolis on Sunday June 09, 2013 @04:20PM (#5850407)
Uh, I think you're confusing "ideals" with "lawful behavior".

You can be a supporter of the EFF and believe that the work the NSA is doing is necessary and good for the country. I worked on Lawful Interception systems and I had no problem with their use as long as a COMPETENT COURT was the one regulating it.

Re:Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of N... by rossjudson on Sunday June 09, 2013 @07:40PM (#5851286)
This seems to be the critical component, to me. The intercepts must go through a competent court, which must create some form of public record that will eventually be released. There have to be enough judges to handle the load. And if the load is huge, for these intercepts we need to look at why that is, and ensure it's not just fishing.

On the other hand, maybe big data fishing is the most effective method.

Re:Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of N... by Nrsolis on Sunday June 09, 2013 @09:42PM (#5851789)
So, David Simon (of The Wire/Treme fame) wrote this up:

http://davidsimon.com/we-are-shocked-shocked/

I think he makes some good points.