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Re:“The government does not have access to Google servers” by cromwellian on Saturday June 08, 2013 @03:17AM (#5844204)
The government has done irreparable harm to these companies, because even if they are telling the truth, they will never be able to prove it (like Obama could never prove he wasn't born in Kenya) Each new bit of evidence supporting their position will be met with just more questions. That's the problem with government spooks, their capabilities are boundless, anything the mind can imagine, and there's simply not way to erase doubt. Can the NSA break public key encryption? No? Are you 100% sure? Does the NSA have a fibre-tap on all cables? Are they running continuous keyword searches on transcribed conversations of every American, in real time? Can you prove they don't have some secret new $30 billion data center, paid for by the $60 billion in Iraq money that went "missing"?

10 years from now, people will still be talking about this.

We need to roll back the Patriot Act, period.

Re:“The government does not have access to Google servers” by hannibal5 on Saturday June 08, 2013 @09:03AM (#5844772)
They can prove it. Comprehensive independent security audits managed by well known privacy and human rights organizations. Considering the scale of Google they should have number of people auditing them all the time.
Re:“The government does not have access to Google servers” by onecommentonly on Saturday June 08, 2013 @08:24AM (#5844684)
Google has way more data from a million little things we online than it should have. The government can easily get it, it can leak, get hacked etc. If the data isn't archived, no one can ask for it. Simple as that.