Re:Obama’s Remarks on NSA Controversy
by anigbrowl on Friday June 07, 2013 @04:32PM
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So if I call you from outside 123 Main Street, Anytown on Tuesday at 6:37pm, what are we talking about? Even if one of us is known criminal or terrorist, the fact that conversation took place is merely suspicious rather than probative.
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If a Tea Party leader gets a call from a Koch lobbyist, that information could easily be used to discredit them. Lots of the past abuses of government power would have been just as effective with merely the data the government is collecting about us.
As innuendo goes, that example is pretty weak sauce.
Re:Obama’s Remarks on NSA Controversy
by AutoCorrect on Friday June 07, 2013 @04:44PM
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keep drinking the kool-aid. seriously, every response up to this has been you defending the ongoing actions of the government. are you a government employee?
Far from it; in fact, as a non-citizen I have far fewer rights than you do, assuming you're a US citizen. Now try addressing my argument instead of attacking me personally, and try to distinguish between defending the actions of the government and pointing out factual context, such as the fact that it is not in fact illegal or unconstitional for the government to collect records of phone calls, even though it perhaps should be.
As it happens, I'm from Europe, and one thing I do miss about the EU is that citizens of that territory enjoy a explicit and robust constitutional right to privacy that does not exist in the US, not to mention a unilateral right of access to and control over their personal data in both governmental and commercial spheres. I have called on many occasions for an amendment to the US Constitution that would confer such rights on Americans instead of relying on the vague and implicit 'discovery' of a privacy right that did not exist before 1965 and which could be taken away as easily as it was given.
Re:Obama’s Remarks on NSA Controversy
by kevincrane on Friday June 07, 2013 @04:57PM
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He's just not jumping to conclusions right away. He asks a valid question and your answer didn't contribute in any way.