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Re:US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies ... by adventured on Friday June 07, 2013 @12:50AM (#5837290)
By the time they're using these extreme powers to smother dissent, you're fucked. It's game over and your ability to speak out using the first amendment is non-existent.

The very reason why these things should never be allowed, is because the absolute protection of freedom of speech is ultimately the last safeguard against tyranny (before you get to violence anyway).

Why let the guy into my house with a gun and roll the dice on whether he intends to at some point do me harm? That's crazy. We've seen enough really malevolent politicians assume power all over the world and domestically, to know better than to take such chances. History is littered with endless examples, it's at best naive to think America can't suffer the same types of fate.

Re:US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies ... by irishloop on Friday June 07, 2013 @10:37AM (#5839122)
>By the time they're using these extreme powers to smother dissent, you're fucked. It's game over and your ability to speak out using the first amendment is non-existent.

This is how revolutions are started. There's no "game over." A population always has the option to rise up against their brutal regime. Especially in a place like the United States, where individual freedoms are highly prized and there is a rather large contingent of heavily armed and often angry population.

Re:US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies ... by akiselev on Friday June 07, 2013 @05:05PM (#5841886)
Revolutions are much easier in homogeneous populations than they are in ethnically diverse ones.

I fear that if there is a violent revolution in a society as socioeconomically and ethnically diverse as the United States it would result in a civil war. I have no idea how that would play out in a country as developed as the United States but I don't think it would be pretty.