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Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by newbie12 on Thursday June 06, 2013 @01:38PM (#5833869)
The "hoarding" argument has no economic basis. Money that is saved in stocks, bonds, or bank accounts is immediately put to use by companies, banks, or governments.
Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by numbsafari on Thursday June 06, 2013 @01:51PM (#5833975)
> Money that is saved in stocks, bonds, or bank accounts is immediately put to use by companies, banks, or governments.

Oh is it? really?

In the real world (not the fantasy land of trickle-down economics), money that is saved in stocks, bonds and bank accounts is NOT immediately put to use by companies, banks or governments.

Banks have done a terrible job putting the money given to them by the government and the Federal Reserve to work. Small business lending dried up and has taken years to recover, despite all the efforts to convince banks to do otherwise.

The government did a notoriously bad job of putting the stimulus spending money to work.

As for businesses, hiring has been slow, wages stagnant and investment weak for years, despite an excess of cash (profits).

Almost nothing has been done to stimulate demand, much has been done to stimulate supply.

So, arguments about "hoarding" have not only economic basis, they have a basis in fact as well.

Granted, on those grounds, Sean Parker should be lauded for putting some of his money to work.

Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by mtowle on Thursday June 06, 2013 @02:17PM (#5834177)
>not the fantasy land of trickle-down economics

The war on straw wages on

Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by lifeguard on Thursday June 06, 2013 @01:48PM (#5833948)
No it isn't. It is paid out in dividends and bonuses. The ultra-rich also are experts at sheltering their money from government's eye.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayman_islands#Taxation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_haven

Bonus points if you know unemployment benefits are subject to income tax in America.

Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by cia_plant on Thursday June 06, 2013 @02:22PM (#5834215)
This is Say's Law, and was believed throughout the 19th century until being vigorously challenged by Keynes in his "General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money". The "General" in the title specifically refers to the fact that the theory goes beyond the "special" conditions in which Say's Law holds. There are still believers in Say's Law but the mainstream economic position is that it is false in general.
Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by tomp on Thursday June 06, 2013 @01:44PM (#5833911)
But someone has to actually spend the money for it to be truly useful (money has to circle through the economy).
Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by darkarmani on Thursday June 06, 2013 @02:07PM (#5834104)
> The "hoarding" argument has no economic basis.

So all that cash under my grandfather's mattress is being put to use?

Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by jbooth on Thursday June 06, 2013 @02:02PM (#5834066)
Next you'll be telling us that a police officer would never lie under oath.
Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by pessimizer on Thursday June 06, 2013 @01:47PM (#5833936)
Under radically different definitions of use, yes. Money is useful as a reserve, but useful isn't the same as use.
Re:Sean Parker's Wedding Defense by kaonashi on Thursday June 06, 2013 @07:11PM (#5835860)
No, it certainly is not. Loans create deposits when creditworthy borrowers show up and ask for them, and required reserves are obtained afterwards from the cheapest source available.