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Re:Emacs is Dead (2010) by evincarofautumn on Monday June 03, 2013 @01:14AM (#5811520)
I meant human efficiency, not the computer kind.
Re:Emacs is Dead (2010) by Ma8ee on Monday June 03, 2013 @07:41AM (#5812620)
In what way is Emacs inefficient for humans?
Re:Emacs is Dead (2010) by danielbarla on Monday June 03, 2013 @09:13AM (#5813020)
My guess would be the Emacs pinky:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs#Emacs_pinky

As a novice Vim user who has at times wanted to try out Emacs, this has always been an irritation. I think it's telling that one of the suggested work-arounds according that article is:

> Emacs' built-in "Viper-mode" that allows use of the vi key layout for basic text editing and the Emacs scheme for more advanced features.

Re:Emacs is Dead (2010) by regularfry on Monday June 03, 2013 @10:02AM (#5813310)
Try this task for an example: underline an arbitrary line of text with '=' characters. In vim that's 11 keypresses across 3 operations, possibly less if there's a shortcut I haven't thought of. How many keypresses does emacs take out of the box?

Emacs, especially with paredit, is fairly well optimised for editing s-expressions and the like. Vim is very well optimised for line-based editing, but I don't get on with its buffer management at all.

Re:Emacs is Dead (2010) by intractable on Monday June 03, 2013 @12:01PM (#5813999)

    > underline an arbitrary line of text with '=' characters. In vim that's 11 keypresses across 3 operations
Sounds like a vimgolf challenge to me. Here's my entry:

YpVr=

Re:Emacs is Dead (2010) by swah on Monday June 03, 2013 @04:59PM (#5815984)
I'm wondering now that the creativity to come up with those things might actually be beneficial to coding.
Re:Emacs is Dead (2010) by danielbarla on Tuesday June 04, 2013 @02:24AM (#5818002)
I'd agree with that, and also - an intense dislike of unnecessary repetition / work is definitely a good thing. I'm not sure using Vim causes that, but it definitely reinforces it.

For those that are interested, I would recommend "Practical Vim", and it includes many examples (including the above one) which really accelerate the learning process:

http://pragprog.com/book/dnvim/practical-vim

There are definitely cheaper alternatives (including free ones), but this book really laid the concepts out very clearly for me.

Re:Emacs is Dead (2010) by regularfry on Wednesday June 05, 2013 @07:03AM (#5824759)
Well, that Vr= soundly beats my :s/./=/g.