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Re:U.S. is the only developed country with no guaranteed pai... by YZF on Monday May 27, 2013 @01:14PM (#5775465)
They're not completely. Try negotiating more vacation and less pay. This is very difficult in practice. The employer will be concerned about other employees seeing you're getting more vacation (they can't see your pay).
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Re:U.S. is the only developed country with no guaranteed pai... by tptacek on Monday May 27, 2013 @01:28PM (#5775577)
In my experience, the opposite has been true: companies have hard caps (bands) on salary, but not on vacation days, so you can usually negotiate for the latter more easily than the former.

If time and money aren't fungible, shouldn't there be a comparison we could do between Germany and the US to show that? Maybe there is one. I haven't looked hard.

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Re:U.S. is the only developed country with no guaranteed pai... by YZF on Monday May 27, 2013 @03:26PM (#5776150)
It's expected that money is negotiated. Companies that have bands usually have pretty wide bands and then the band you're in is also negotiable. Most companies will have a vacation policy of some sort which is hard to negotiate against.

Vacation is more visible which can make it a problem. This also creates a "negative vacation" problem- people working on weekends, holidays, long hours and during their "vacation".

What would you compare between Germany and the US? Perhaps a more adequate comparison is US salary level vs. vacation days across different companies. Also a very hard/noisy compare.

We should do an HN survey... (I'd be interested in how much vacation people are getting/taking).

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