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Re:Unsupervised Feature Learning and Deep Learning Tutorial by wslh on Saturday May 25, 2013 @10:44PM (#5769809)
What is the place of support vector machines once deep learning techniques are going mainsteeam?
Re:Unsupervised Feature Learning and Deep Learning Tutorial by textminer on Saturday May 25, 2013 @10:51PM (#5769827)
Am I crazy, or is the short-run benefit more for unsupervised feature learning more than classification accuracy? If I recall from my brief reading on the subject, kernel-aided SVMs and Random Forests are basically equivalent to a three-layer deep graphical net, but on painfully feature-engineered inputs. I'd wager learning features is more useful now than any benefit of a super-deep architecture.

(I would love for a practitioner to shoot this down or corroborate my hunch-- awfully new to neural nets, having basically read a monograph, played with Theano, and watched some Hinton lectures.)

Re:Unsupervised Feature Learning and Deep Learning Tutorial by ihodes on Saturday May 25, 2013 @11:37PM (#5769930)
What did you read, and would you recommend it? I'm looking for some good reading on the subject.
Re:Unsupervised Feature Learning and Deep Learning Tutorial by textminer on Sunday May 26, 2013 @12:04AM (#5769991)
Learn and be well: http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~bengioy/papers/ftml_book.pdf

Explains and motivates the use of autoencoders (and sparsity constraints) and restricted Boltzmann machines, too.

Re:Unsupervised Feature Learning and Deep Learning Tutorial by ihodes on Tuesday May 28, 2013 @01:16PM (#5781222)
Thank you!
Re:Unsupervised Feature Learning and Deep Learning Tutorial by awc on Sunday May 26, 2013 @12:19AM (#5770022)
SVMs may still be useful as a classifier sitting on top of a deep model. Plugging the features learned during unsupervised pre-training into an SVM instead of a neural net is perfectly valid.

Lower layers of the "deep" model are (typically) performing non-linear dimensionality reduction. i.e. generating a set of high-level features which make subsequent classification easier than it would have been on the raw input data.

Re:Unsupervised Feature Learning and Deep Learning Tutorial by fiatmoney on Sunday May 26, 2013 @01:41AM (#5770167)
You can use SVMs for deep learning, for one.

http://books.nips.cc/papers/files/nips25/NIPS2012_1290.pdf