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Re:PHP Weekly improvements by rbanffy on Thursday May 23, 2013 @12:56PM (#5757911)
> You'd be surprised to know that world is made of kludges

No. I wouldn't. I'm an electrical engineer by training.

> Performance hacks are always kludges.

Not always. Sometimes they bring out some inner beauty in the code that was previously hidden. But, again, sometimes they don't.

> Honest question, should I waste my time worrying about the "What makes syntax elegant" than working with the existing kludge ?

It depends on your priorities. If you were a poet, would you be more worried about making good poetry or selling more books?

> Why shouldn't I seek beauty in output and look for a programming language that get's me the output quickly ?

Again, it depends on what is your output and how you relate with the fact that the thing generating that output is a horrible mess.

Re:PHP Weekly improvements by prollyignored on Thursday May 23, 2013 @01:47PM (#5758229)
> No. I wouldn't. I'm an electrical engineer by training.

I agree. Electrical, Electronics, Civil, NASA aka Real Engineering will not have more kludges.

Phone Radiation / Drainage Systems have a few "Oh well I'll just leave it here ..."

But what about medicine, law, newspapers ? Are they not part of the real messy world ?

I agree to be a kludge worker and an idealist part time poet :) (pragmatic choice)