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Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by paul on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @04:14PM (#5746536)
The fundamental error of this piece is that it assumes that if you vote Democratic, you're by definition not an engineer. (not really, but to me it makes as much sense as your statement)

How does being a part of the evil "one percent" make you any less qualified to have or hold a variety of political views? If anything, I've found that having more money makes me more aware of issues like unemployment, health care, etc because many of my friends and family are not as well off, and now I'm in a position where I feel obligated to do something about it.

Overall, I find the whole left/right political divide to be frustratingly counter-productive. Both sides are wrong, and we waste much time and energy arguing about which side is more wrong.

Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by cmdkeen on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @05:40PM (#5747085)
Well feel better - there is no right/left divide in America. By the standards of anywhere else there is only very right / slightly less right.

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled off was convincing Americans that anyone to the left of Attila the Hun was a Communist...

What I find odd is that the article equates libertarianism with Rand and the Koch brothers, as if no other type exists. There's also a hint of conflating liberalism and libertarianism.

Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by saraid216 on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @06:12PM (#5747294)
Libertarianism is basically a fundamentalist version of liberalism. It's essentially "liberalism has gotten too complicated and the complexity is producing errors; here are the most important bits and they're what Really Matter", which is what fundamentalism is.
Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by yarrel on Wednesday May 22, 2013 @04:35AM (#5749528)
It's a fundamentalist version of economic liberalism certainly, but not of political liberalism in the sense of vaguely leftist centrism.
Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by saraid216 on Wednesday May 22, 2013 @01:00PM (#5752173)
Political liberalism is and always has been nonsense. It's a propaganda label and is as meaningful as having a Libertarian Party with a platform half the libertarians in the country disagree (all of whom contend that those who do agree aren't True libertarians).
Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by eru on Wednesday May 22, 2013 @03:33AM (#5749372)
> By the standards of anywhere else there is only very right / slightly less right.

Depends. Germansy is rather social democratic, but to a German government subsidised housing (via Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) and universal minumum wage sound vaguely socialist.

Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by walshemj on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @06:11PM (#5747283)
And describing Obama/Dems as a liberal when hes/they are centre right.
Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by skaevola on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @11:35PM (#5748722)
There's a wonderful short story by Orson Scott Card titled God Plays Fair Once Too Often concerning this.
Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by jacoblyles on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @08:59PM (#5748120)
The Democratic Party is trying to gobble up more of the economy to spend through the federal government, the Republican Party is trying to make it eat less. How are they not left and right?
Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by declan on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @11:07PM (#5748632)
And under George W. Bush the Republican party created the Department of Homeland Security, the purpose of which is arguably to "gobble up more of the economy to spend through the federal government." And engaged in new excesses of deficit spending (since exceeded by Obama, true).

The broader point is that politics is multidimensional. It's not just one axis. The history of tech policy votes in Congress is a good example that's close to HN home.

Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by scarmig on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @10:06PM (#5748378)
You can't map being right and left wing to a scale measured by "desired percentage of GDP to be spent by the government." Consider: Bush or Clinton? Huckabee or Romney? FDR or Hitler? Ukrainian anarchists or Stalin? French monarchists or Jacobins? Southern segregationists or Northern industrialists?
Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by rndmize on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @05:13PM (#5746877)
> How does being a part of the evil "one percent" make you any less qualified to have or hold a variety of political views?

I don't think this is what he's saying. It's that one percenters have an inherently greater voice on political issues (if they so choose) and that as a result, the national debate has been warped to focus on the issues and perspectives they consider important.

Re:Why Silicon Valley is not the second coming of the Gilded... by smacktoward on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @07:35PM (#5747831)
That was my point, yes. I don't object to the 1% having a voice in politics; of course they should! I just object to having a system that defers reflexively to their needs and interests over those of everybody else.