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Re:Recruit this by vinceguidry on Monday May 20, 2013 @09:27PM (#5741356)
Three rules for dealing with recruiters.

Don't let them near your cell phone number. Keep it off your profile. Put a Google Voice number in there instead. It's like Craigslist, there are advantages to using them, but you need to wear your big boy pants and take some simple steps to protect your privacy.

Recruiters are not technical and never will be. "I think I'll quit programming and start recruiting" -- No one, ever. Do not expect them to know anything about the jobs they're pitching. They're sales types, skilled at making connections with people, not machines. Try to appreciate that instead of demanding they learn two difficult skill-sets just for a fairly-poorly compensated job.

Keep each email to a single question until you've established that the opportunity is worth pursuing. Don't let them set the direction of the discussion until then. In the situation described, I would have simply asked, over and over again, "What is the salary range offered?" until they coughed up a number.

A recruiter found me my current job. I might be here a month until another recruiter will find me another making more money.

Re:Recruit this by Peroni on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @03:06AM (#5742271)
Recruiters are not technical and never will be. "I think I'll quit programming and start recruiting" -- No one, ever.

I guess I'm the exception to the rule then. I studied software development in a prestigious university and worked as a developer for a few years and left because I simply didn't enjoy it and wasn't making as much money as I hoped. Admittedly I wasn't the greatest developer in the world but I was at the very least average. I left development to work in sales and eventually and (unintentionally) fell into recruitment. I currently work as an inhouse recruiter for a large development company and make significantly more money than what I could have expected had I stayed in development.

for a fairly-poorly compensated job.

Base salaries in agency recruitment are poor but if you do nothing more than hit your targets then you'll comfortably clear £60k a year in the UK whilst still in your early twenties. There are plenty of recruiters who would struggle to print 'hello world' in any language that still clear six figures a year.

Your advice about protecting your cell phone number is absolutely spot on though.

Re:Recruit this by MisterBastahrd on Monday May 20, 2013 @09:46PM (#5741411)
Technical recruiters are hardly poorly compensated. They rarely work more than 40 hours a week and any recruiter worth a crap will be making and sustaining 6 figures within 3 years.
Re:Recruit this by Peroni on Tuesday May 21, 2013 @03:08AM (#5742274)
Not sure what the situation is in the US but I have yet to meet a single successful recruiter in the UK that works less than a 60 hour week. Recruiter hours on this side of the world are quite notorious.
Re:Recruit this by MisterBastahrd on Monday May 27, 2013 @09:06PM (#5777446)
I worked a split desk for a year during the tech bust and made ~50K in 8 months, and I wasn't particularly motivated at that job... several co-workers who started the same time that I did outperformed me by as much as 40K. For most of those guys today, a bad year is below the $150K range. Mind you, this is in Dallas, not San Francisco. Some of them migrated to another company which does permanent and contract placement and most of the ones who made the switch are pulling in 200K+.

From what I gather, the UK and EU don't value software developers as much, so the bill rates are probably lower.

Re:Recruit this by cimorene12 on Monday May 20, 2013 @09:53PM (#5741446)
I use Google Voice for job hunting, but I had a random thought about Burner when it first came out. It can be used for the same purpose and you can get rid of the number if you no longer want to be in contact with the recruiter. I think that Burner was originally intended to be used in romantic situations, but I find that the employment context might be interesting as well. http://burnerapp.com/