News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Hacker serving 5-year sentence invents ATM add-on to prevent theft. Parent comment

Re:Hacker serving 5-year sentence invents ATM add-on to prev... by mpyne on Friday May 17, 2013 @12:46PM (#5725411)
The smart card I have requires only a PIN, and that PIN can be intercepted by suitable hardware can it not?
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Hacker serving 5-year sentence invents ATM add-on to prev... by dan-bell on Friday May 17, 2013 @12:51PM (#5725439)
I've heard of pinhole cameras being used in card skimming operations where PIN numbers are required.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Hacker serving 5-year sentence invents ATM add-on to prev... by jonknee on Friday May 17, 2013 @01:40PM (#5725722)
That doesn't do anything for a chip and pin card. You need the chip too.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Hacker serving 5-year sentence invents ATM add-on to prev... by norse1 on Friday May 17, 2013 @05:26PM (#5726779)
Here in the uk they skim your card, create a replica and use a pinhole camera to get your pin.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Hacker serving 5-year sentence invents ATM add-on to prev... by icebraining on Friday May 17, 2013 @07:33PM (#5727231)
As far as I know, you can't skim the chip. In the EMV system, the private key is only accessible to the internal "CPU", not the reader.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Hacker serving 5-year sentence invents ATM add-on to prev... by maxerickson on Friday May 17, 2013 @01:07PM (#5725513)
Isn't the whole point of the "smart" that the card is difficult to replicate and must be present?
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Hacker serving 5-year sentence invents ATM add-on to prev... by mpyne on Friday May 17, 2013 @01:13PM (#5725543)
Yes that's true, I was thinking of the case where we assume the card is stolen.
[ Parent | on HN ]