"and who exactly adjudged that, that they don't have this right?"

Those who manage to escape the concentration camps and leave the country.

I think nodata is saying that the North Korean government has taken that right away from them.

And I think, I said it clearly, that what is the proof of, that right being taken away is something NK's want to fight for? even if what nodata said is true, that it is indeed being taken away.

The reporting of our own media? which are not being allowed into NK, or if they are, are they being allowed the time, freedom to scrutinize? And if someone would think, that because they are disallowing media, they have something to hide, while indeed they have! but would you allow your neighbor to come inside your house, and get the truth about any fight you had within your family?

No one is attacking you personally here. You have simply said some misguided accusations about a country whose history you clearly have not read very much about. That is fine, we all make mistakes. Digging your heels is unnecessary. Perhaps this story would make you pause and reconsider your perspective. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Dong-hyuk_%28human_rights_... One exerpt is particularly chilling:

"""When Shin was 14, he overheard his mother and brother planning an escape attempt and informed the guards, which was something he was taught to do from an early age.[4][5] Rather than reward Shin for turning his family members in, the guards tortured him for four days to extract more information from him.[4][5] According to Shin, the guards lit a charcoal fire under his back and forced a hook into his skin so that he could not struggle,[12] and this caused Shin to receive many large scars from the flesh being burned and other abuses.[13] On November 29, 1996, camp officials forced Shin to watch the public execution of his mother and brother, and he knew that he was directly responsible for the execution """

If only 10% of one of the accounts of the concentration camp escapees is true, then NK is in the same cluster as Syria and Congo in terms of treatment of its people.

Its reasonable to assume that the right to not have your malnourished six year old daughter beaten to death for stealing a few corn kernels is one that homo sapiens everywhere find worth fighting for.