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Re:Wine tasting is bullshit by derefr on Thursday May 09, 2013 @11:50PM (#5684514)
> studies that correlate verbiage price

There are certain terms that do just mean "it tastes expensive," yes (and reviewers that are paid by the word frequently whip out the wine-taster's thesaurus to spew them all over the page to fill their quota.) But the kinds of details I'm talking about aren't those--looking for, say, a "hint of nutmeg" in a wine won't put you into a higher echelon of prices. It'll just give you wines that taste more like nutmeg.

> it makes a case that reviewers generally can't identify more than six or so flavors in a wine

I don't see what's wrong with that. Six is already a lot of details to pick out. By that point, you're getting down past the standards of the label and into things like "orange zest", which really do let you discriminate a wine with a flavor you might want to try from one that turns you off.

> they often can't even tell red from white

This isn't as shocking a pronouncement as it's made out to be. Here's the quote:

> They called it "jammy," for example, and noted the flavors imparted by its "crushed red fruit."

This implies that they clearly could tell it wasn't your average red--those are the kinds of things you would say about a red (usually as a veiled insult) when it doesn't have any tannin or oak in it, which tends to imply that it's basically a white made with red grapes (that is, made with white-wine processes, that don't seek to capture tannins.)

Whites and reds, although they seem like (and are treated like) separate things, are really just a spectrum; there's no dividing point where a white becomes a red, flavor-wise; there are whites that taste like reds, and reds that taste like whites. The category is just about the color, nothing else.

Re:Wine tasting is bullshit by kbenson on Friday May 10, 2013 @12:01AM (#5684545)
While not entirely winning me over, your argument at least attempts to explain the problems brought forth in the article.

Considering how most other defenders have reverted to simple knee-jerk "it's obviously not bullshit, I go tasting all the time" reactions, possibly without even reading the linked article, I salute (and update) you.

Edit: refined text to clarify meaning. s/not exactly winning/not entirely winning/

Re:Wine tasting is bullshit by derefr on Friday May 10, 2013 @12:11AM (#5684583)
Really, I don't know that much about wine myself; I'm just making a weak attempt at my uncle's usual stylings (he's a wine journalist working for, of all things, a wine-kit manufacturer--so a bit of an apostate in the industry.)

Relevant article from him: http://www.timswineblog.com/2011/01/robert-parker-is-not-the...