Re:Wine tasting is bullshit
by derefr on Thursday May 09, 2013 @11:15PM
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> saying how the expensive wine was good, but they "weren't quite sure", so down rated it
This actually seems perfectly valid to me. One of the universal qualities of "expensive-tasting" things is that their tastes are usually complex--it takes a while to work through exactly what makes them good. They're meant to also be good in the "food" sense, yes, but more than anything, they're supposed to be art--of the kind you would stand in a gallery analyzing, trying to figure out how the time and place of its creation influenced its style, etc.
With no training, you'll usually ignore flavor entirely, and just go for the wine that has the most sugar and a decent amount of alcohol. It might not actually be the one you most prefer in the moment (though it certainly could be)--but when you're asked for a rating, it's the one you can justify, and our post-hoc justifications for preferences frequently overwrite our (weaker) memories of experiential preferences.
Re:Wine tasting is bullshit
by ryandvm on Friday May 10, 2013 @08:30AM
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What a load of crap. If you need proper training to tell if something is "good" then you're not detecting goodness at all. All you're doing is engaging in pattern matching with a bunch of other pretentious assholes.
This actually seems perfectly valid to me. One of the universal qualities of "expensive-tasting" things is that their tastes are usually complex--it takes a while to work through exactly what makes them good. They're meant to also be good in the "food" sense, yes, but more than anything, they're supposed to be art--of the kind you would stand in a gallery analyzing, trying to figure out how the time and place of its creation influenced its style, etc.
With no training, you'll usually ignore flavor entirely, and just go for the wine that has the most sugar and a decent amount of alcohol. It might not actually be the one you most prefer in the moment (though it certainly could be)--but when you're asked for a rating, it's the one you can justify, and our post-hoc justifications for preferences frequently overwrite our (weaker) memories of experiential preferences.