Re:DOJ: We don't need warrants for e-mail, Facebook chats
by Zimahl on Wednesday May 08, 2013 @12:58PM
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I guess what people don't have a problem with there is that at least someone is physically listening in on a phone line - it requires manpower to do and thus is very deliberate.
It's when we are being data mined by the government there's a problem. I think we all don't mind being data mined for advertising (within reason) but when we are being watched to be 'kept in line' that's where there's a problem. At that point it's more like 'Minority Report' where you are being scrutinized before you even do anything.
Re:DOJ: We don't need warrants for e-mail, Facebook chats
by err_badprocrast on Wednesday May 08, 2013 @03:17PM
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I don't like being data mined, full stop. Advertisers don't get a free pass; I would much rather pay for any service than have companies I don't even know the names of compile mile-long paper trails of my online (and possibly offline) activities.
Re:DOJ: We don't need warrants for e-mail, Facebook chats
by srumple on Wednesday May 08, 2013 @12:31PM
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The problem here is not the level of access they get to our information. The problem is how they are allowed to use that access. The 4th Amendment doesn't really prevent the Feds from snooping on anything they want to, it just prevents them from acting on any of that information.
Same goes for FB, Google and other providers. They have the ability to read your mail and occasionally do just like the phone company.
Bonus example: voice mail. It's just like email since its a message sitting on the service providers computer. Can the Feds just listen to those messages?