Re:Indian Coders Found Cheating in Google Code Jam?
by testbro on Sunday May 05, 2013 @11:04AM
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This behaviour was common in the last Facebook Hacker Cup too. Most of the announcements of rounds starting included discussion of (and in some cases links to) solutions.
I guess it's part and parcel - I think Facebook did take action against obvious plagiarisers. If not, the later rounds will weed out the cheaters in any case.
Re:Indian Coders Found Cheating in Google Code Jam?
by fmax30 on Sunday May 05, 2013 @11:14AM
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I think you are missing the point here , instead of 3 cheaters three honest coders could have qualified to the next round , which would in turn give them the chance for competing in round 2 and round 3.
Re:Indian Coders Found Cheating in Google Code Jam?
by zplesivcak on Sunday May 05, 2013 @11:29AM
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If someone barely missed passing through 1st round, chance for him to make it through any of the following rounds is practically non-existant. Exception being if he's experienced competitor who fell short for some reason.
Re:Indian Coders Found Cheating in Google Code Jam?
by SteveGerencser on Sunday May 05, 2013 @11:40AM
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So what you are saying is that since they may not have had a chance to win it's okay that someone cheating got ahead of them?
Re:Indian Coders Found Cheating in Google Code Jam?
by jstanley on Sunday May 05, 2013 @11:54AM
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I understand zplesivcak's point. While it is lame that cheating is going on, it doesn't really impact the overall winner of the contest.
Also, for the last 3 spots out of 1000, there is a lot of luck involved anyway.
Re:Indian Coders Found Cheating in Google Code Jam?
by djKianoosh on Sunday May 05, 2013 @11:56AM
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you assume a lot there with "last" 3 spots.
Re:Indian Coders Found Cheating in Google Code Jam?
by jstanley on Sunday May 05, 2013 @12:00PM
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Well, it will only be the last 3 spots that are (substantially) affected by 3 cheaters - everybody else either qualified or failed to qualify anyway.
And the luck I'm referring to is in timing. If you look at the scoreboard for round 1B, 1000th place scored 34 points and a time of 1:30:38. 1001st place 34 points and a time of 1:30:48.
That 10 seconds is nothing if not luck.
Re:Indian Coders Found Cheating in Google Code Jam?
by fmax30 on Sunday May 05, 2013 @12:02PM
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Imagine this scenario ,It is round 1C . A talented programmer started competing there are only 20 minutes to go. He solves the Small and Large test cases for Problem A ,and only the small for problem C. But Alas ! his rank is 1002 , he doesn't qualify even though on topcoder he is in the top 200's.
I'm competing in Code Jam, and it's nice to think that everyone is interested in playing fair. If you're not capable of solving the problems at this stage, you won't be capable of solving them at the later stages either, so in that respect I don't really see the point in cheating.
All it really means is that a few of the borderline-qualifying competitors missed out.
EDIT: Might be interesting to download everybody's round 1B solutions and look for similarity. I'm going to attempt to do this now.
EDIT2: Boy, Google sure don't make it easy to download everybody's solutions...