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Re:Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" released by eropple on Saturday May 04, 2013 @10:07PM (#5657161)
I'm not, because I find Debian's KVM support to be not what I expect, but if you don't like Ubuntu for whatever reason, it's not a bad time to do it. That said, Debian stable means you'd better be happy with what you have for a very long time unless you want to deal with the often-painful stable->testing or stable->unstable migration. (It can be done, I've done it many times, but expect it to break something.)

Personally, I just use Ubuntu. It's Debian unstable but shinier. :)

Re:Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" released by mwcampbell on Saturday May 04, 2013 @10:35PM (#5657238)
What is wrong with Debian's KVM support?
Re:Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" released by kbar13 on Saturday May 04, 2013 @10:12PM (#5657176)
and with upstart &co
Re:Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" released by mverwijs on Sunday May 05, 2013 @04:05AM (#5657797)
I'm unable to determine if you mean upstart to be a Good Thing, or a Bad Thing, or anything in between.

To me, switching back from Ubuntu to Debian was a blessing. And I simply cannot understand this need to decrease boottimes. My laptop boots into Debian under 12 seconds. That is pretty fast. Under Ubuntu, I timed it at 10 seconds.

2 seconds boottime? Is that what this upstart/systemd hastle is all about? I just do not get that.

Re:Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" released by ludwigvan on Sunday May 05, 2013 @06:02AM (#5657987)
""Well, let's say you can shave 10 seconds off of the boot time. Multiply that by five million users and thats 50 million seconds, every single day. Over a year, that's probably dozens of lifetimes. So if you make it boot ten seconds faster, you've saved a dozen lives. That's really worth it, don't you think?" "

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Saving_Lives.txt

Re:Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" released by mverwijs on Sunday May 05, 2013 @12:42PM (#5658907)
I don't know. I mean, the trend has been hand-held devices and laptops for the past decade or so. They don't get booted every day and will be less and less. All the while, devices are getting faster hardware, making the difference even less.

Too me, it still seems not worth breaking a working standard (SysV) over.