The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada

Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by cheez on Sunday April 28, 2013 @04:48PM (#5622704)

You're missing the point. By implication, you paint some people as pro-freedom because they may have a certain stance on gay rights. Jamaica doesn't deserve its Press Freedom Index ranking to be better than Canada's because of gay rights. This is wrong. First of all, Canada is hardly a truly free country. I read that 40% of the cost of living is taken up in taxes. What strange definition of freedom is that? Canada also has hate speech laws which will no doubt be used in time to silence serious political dissent. I would predict the first test to be serious anti-feminist messages.

In the US, libertarians are branded as conservatives. I like how you paired conservatism with repression. Note that the most severe government actions in modern times have been done by socialist governments, not conservative.

Anyway, politically, libertarians believe in gay rights as well as the rights to self defense.

Progressives typically believe in one and not the other.

So yes, liberal is not the word you wanted to use to describe those who would restrict a person's right to self defense if you were interested in clarity.

Classical liberalism is what is colloquially known as libertarianism in today's politics so I would suggest that if you don't want to be confused next time, use a more appropriate term.

Nothing to do with guns, really. That was just the example I came up with off the top of my head.

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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by pyre on Sunday April 28, 2013 @10:16PM (#5623745)

  | Jamaica doesn't deserve its Press Freedom Index
  | ranking to be better than Canada's because of gay
  | rights. This is wrong.

This makes no sense in this context. I neither wrote that the index should be based off of gay right, nor do I believe any such thing, as it's a freedom of the press index.

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