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Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by dmix on Sunday April 28, 2013 @03:01PM (#5622297)
> they want to commit violent acts against gays, blacks, and other minorities with minimal reprecussions

Actually this is incorrect. The hate speechs laws were recently tested in the Supreme court [1] and they are not simply based on threats of violence in speech against discriminated groups (that is already covered by many federal laws)

The provincial level speech laws are intended to criminalize (via fines) speech containing prejudice in order to promote social equality. For example, the intended objective in Saskatchewan hate speech laws:

> “tackling causes of discriminatory activity to reduce the harmful effects and social costs of discrimination.”

> “appropriately balances the fundamental values underlying freedom of expression with competing Charter rights and other values essential to a free and democratic society, in this case a commitment to equality and respect for group identity and the inherent dignity owed to all human beings,” wrote Mr. Justice Marshall Rothstein for the court.

[1] http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/02/27/supreme-court-uphold...

So it's not a simple as just targeting people who promote genocide or deny the holocaust.

These broad hate speech laws have the potential of causing "chilling effects":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect_(law)

But what's worse is that they are trialed in special tribunals and the defendants don't have access to the standard legal defence rights.

> Mary Agnes Welch, president of the Canadian Association of Journalists stated that Human rights commissions "were never meant to act as language nannies. The current system allows complainants to chill the speech of those they disagree with by entangling targets in a human rights bureaucracy that doesn't have to operate under the same strict rules of defence as a court."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Human_Rights_Commissio...

Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by pyre on Sunday April 28, 2013 @03:16PM (#5622356)
A few years ago, there was a book where the general implication was that Muslims in Europe would gain power/majority just through sheer "out-breeding" of other ethnicities/religious groups. This was deemed to be 'hate speech' because it might incite people to commit hate crimes against Muslims.

Note: I did not read the book, so I don't know how inflammatory it was. Just adding an anecdote.

Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by gyardley on Sunday April 28, 2013 @06:51PM (#5623137)
Sure, you're thinking of Mark Steyn's "America Alone". Great book, and not at all fringe material. Christopher Hitchens had a favorable review, here: http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_1_urbanities-steyn.html

The book itself was not found to be hate speech. The Canadian Islamic Congress made a human-rights complaint about an excerpt from it, which was published in Macleans, at both the federal and (multiple) provincial levels. They never should've been brought in the first place, but all cases were eventually dismissed.

Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by hga on Sunday April 28, 2013 @04:26PM (#5622607)
That's ... odd, or based on outdated statistics per David "Spengler" Goldman, in his writings that include titles like "The Closing of the Muslim Womb" (one of the things freaking out the rulers of Turkey and Iran). About the only place where it might be playing out that way the last time I checked is the U.K.
Re:The Slow and Painful Death of Freedom in Canada by hga on Sunday April 28, 2013 @04:17PM (#5622575)
You left out what I view as the best part about these tribunals, just before your last quote from Wikipedia, a great example of "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely":

"Lemire (with the qualified support of PEN Canada and the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, among others) has won the right to cross-examine HRC investigators concerning their conduct during investigations, namely their posting of provocative racist comments on websites. Jonathan Kay, of the National Post, opined that the HRC had "managed a seemingly impossible task: They've found a way to rehabilitate the image of neo-Nazis, transforming them from odious dirtbags into principled free-speech martyrs.""

Nice "business" they've got, plant racist speech at the websites of their enemies and then prosecute them for it (or something close to that, I forget the details now).