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Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by raganwald on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @09:17AM (#561406)
It's just like utilize. Crotchety old folks will bitch and moan that it is not a real word and unnecessary in any event, but the world will ignore them and use the words it wants to use. English is a living language, and sometimes that means it suffers from unsightly warts.
Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by mhb on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @09:46AM (#561441)
There's a distinction between completely useless, bogus words which duplicate the functionality of existing ones and new words which convey some new meaning (e.g. bromance).

It's surprising that in the world of programming, in which precision is essential, there are so many advocates for cruftiness in English.

Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by raganwald on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @09:53AM (#561456)
It's surprising in the world of programming, in which precision is essential, there are so many advocates for cruftiness in English.

In programming, precision is essential. In human communication, it is often inconsequential. We sped our time railing against our arbitrary and fickle natures, demanding precisely worded specification, imposing workflow and permissions straightjackets on programs, when in reality all that matters is that people feel happy when they use what we build.

If someone feels happy saying the words "performant" and "utilize" to me, that is enough.

Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by mhb on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @10:07AM (#561483)
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Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by sdp on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @01:00PM (#561810)
Why not follow this to its logical conclusion?

  Remove all synonyms
  Example: fine -> good

  Remove antonyms and just negate the word
  Example: bad -> ungood

  Remove special-case nouns: just combine a noun and one or more adjectives to reach the same meaning with fewer fundamental words.
  Example: great -> doubleplusgood; murder -> collateral damage
We could call this doubleplusgood language newspeak.
Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by mhb on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @02:46PM (#562028)
Why not follow this to its logical conclusion?

I did. The masses were not amused.

Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by gruseom on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @12:11PM (#561696)
It's surprising that in the world of programming, in which precision is essential, there are so many advocates for cruftiness in English.

Boy would you not like my code. It's full of neologisms. Undivify. Wipeage. Calcval. Zillions of them! I'd say this makes my code better English, not worse. I choose words carefully and do not hesitate to make a new one if existing ones don't communicate just what is wanted. It's not an arbitrary process and has nothing to do with sloppiness or vanity. It has to do with making the language fit the problem.

Oh, and I use "performant" all the time, too. What other adjective signifies the qualities that programmers have in mind when they say "performance"?

Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by mhb on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @02:44PM (#562022)
It's an aesthetic argument. If you make your constraint tight enough, you're forced into concocting a new word to fix some imagined failing of the existing language. We don't need an adjective that signifies performance and we also don't need an adjective that signifies performance that starts with "perform".

Instead, you can rearrange the wording a little to convey the exact same meaning. By working within the constraints, an elegant solution emerges. By all means add words if they are clever or pleasing or convey a nuance that can't be achieved with what already exists. Performant and functionality don't meet those criteria.

Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by demallien on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @02:30PM (#561984)
Efficient? At least that's what 7 of 9 always uses... And who's going to argue witha reclaimed borg?
Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by gruseom on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @03:07PM (#562079)
I would say that "performant" is a narrower term than "efficient", so no, the two don't coincide.

This whole argument is silly, of course. Natural language is so heavily overloaded that you could never regularize it in the way people seem to be proposing, and if you could, you would ruin it.

Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by mmc on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @01:53PM (#561912)
"Fast"
Re:Hacker Newspaper: reformatted Hacker News by gruseom on Tuesday April 14, 2009 @02:02PM (#561922)
Speed is the most important part, but not the whole concept.