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Re:Our Feel-Good War on Breast Cancer by sliverstorm on Thursday April 25, 2013 @10:20PM (#5611151)
Is it ethically okay

I'd think in the general case, yes. The patient is going to want it, even if it is only 25% effective. I'm not an expert on medical ethics, but in my mind if the patient has complete information and still wants the treatment, the doctor is not morally bankrupt in providing it. The doctor can certainly advise otherwise if they choose, of course.

Re:Our Feel-Good War on Breast Cancer by comrade_ogilvy on Friday April 26, 2013 @01:59PM (#5614393)
You are assuming the patient has complete information. If actually true, I would agree. What is "complete information"? Do the doctors offer the statistics that the treatment is not 25% effective, that by American medical treatment norms chemo is 75% worse than useless and of the remaining 25% many will still die?

The patients are scared. Doctors are playing on those fears, acting on the assumption that fast and aggressive treatment is the wisest course all the time. The patients are reacting out of fear, not getting second opinions, and are hurried into the operating table to be cut open.

That is the norm. I have seen it happen.

It is my personal opinion that, no, most doctors are not offering complete information. So your argument, while reasonable, simply does not apply.

Re:Our Feel-Good War on Breast Cancer by fr0sty on Friday April 26, 2013 @01:57PM (#5614379)
Even in the face of "complete information" from a doctor there is a log of "awareness" being raised elsewhere which is almost uniformly in the battle/fight/beat/win direction.

In such a case it is very easy to see how it would be possible for the patient to choose treatment which is in fact against their best interest.

Also, as mentioned elsewhere in the thread the current regulatory/legal climate leaves a vanishingly small upside and massive downside to the doctor who would advise against treatment.