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Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by nitrogen on Monday April 22, 2013 @09:09PM (#5592712)
In response to dead sibling comment by parasitius:

I agree with your sentiment but not your tone. There is a lot of anti-suburban, anti-car elitism on HN that is apparently ignorant of the very real need for personal transportation for the vast majority of people, even in many major cities. I would support increased driver training requirements (especially specific training and experience with loss of control on various surfaces), but not without a way of ensuring that the transportation and employment needs of everyone, including youth, are still met.

Also, you're probably aware, but your account has been dead for a long time, apparently due to excessively harsh and/or personal negative comments.

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In response to the general subject of driving, it is my opinion that arbitrary point-to-point human mobility is an essential feature of an ideal society. The inability to move from place to place for employment, vacation, or recreation is, again in my opinion, detrimental to society's mutual respect and wellbeing, and leads to economic and cultural segregation.
Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by saraid216 on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @03:10AM (#5593719)
> In response to the general subject of driving, it is my opinion that arbitrary point-to-point human mobility is an essential feature of an ideal society. The inability to move from place to place for employment, vacation, or recreation is, again in my opinion, detrimental to society's mutual respect and wellbeing, and leads to economic and cultural segregation.

But a pervasive public transit system, combined with cycling and walking, achieves that. What it doesn't achieve is the capacity to ship large items between arbitrary points, and a distinct comparative slowness when traveling long distances (vaguely defined).

And you could just as easily argue that the health of a society is degraded by the over-usage of what amounts to an isolating coffin on wheels. There are no opportunities to casually chat with a stranger (unless you carpool with different people, or yell out the window at stopped traffic lights) while in transit: only the endpoints of your trip matter for the cross-pollination you speak of. I would expect this results in zones of high quality surrounded by the mortar of low quality areas.

Incidentally, I picked up this book today: http://www.amazon.com/Walkable-City-Downtown-Save-America/dp... I haven't read it yet and thus cannot recommend it.

Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by nitrogen on Monday April 22, 2013 @09:48PM (#5592875)
parasitius 18 minutes ago | link [dead]

I'm not sure what it means for my account to be dead, it seems I can comment as normal? is there any way to make it undead, without making a whole new account? I'd be willing to change my tone, I'm trying to become more positive this year ^_^

It means that your comments are only visible to people who turn on "showdead" in their profile settings, and it's impossible to respond to you directly.

In theory you can try to contact one of the YC or HN site admins, or PG himself, if you want your account restored. I don't know what's involved or what sort of argument you should make. It might be easier to begin your new tone and new resolve with a new account.

Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by Zak on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @12:46AM (#5593322)
Glancing through his comment history, I didn't see a single thing that seemed ban-worthy. It's more a slew of low-quality comments. I have the feeling it was automatic based on number of comments and average score.
Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by markdown on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @02:26AM (#5593577)
The fact that PG implemented hellbanning really lowers my opinion of him. It's just so incredibly awful... I know of few individuals who would stoop so low in the treatment of their peers.

It's just like in those all-american teen high-school shows where the bully sticks an insulting label on someone and they go about their day not knowing that there is something nasty stuck to the back of their shirts... meanwhile everyone else quietly sniggers until some kind soul lets them know what's up.

Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by youngerdryas on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @06:09AM (#5594221)
Well pg has my sympathies. The practical realities of keeping a site open to all, which is essential, and reasonably easily managed is what you are underestimating. I say this as someone whose over 10k account was hell banned.
Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by Zak on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @03:01PM (#5597226)
It strikes me as strange and ineffectual to use the hellban on a person who is obviously a regular on the site. It's my understanding that it's intent is to cause newcomers who make low-quality contributions to quickly lose interest and leave. It can't really do its job against people who know about it.
Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by markdown on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @07:49AM (#5594496)
Would the result have been different and would you have reacted differently if it was a normal ban (ie. you were made known when attempting to log in that you had been banned)?
Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by youngerdryas on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @08:35AM (#5594657)
I figured it out fairly quickly but apparently some people do not, so it may be of marginal value but I don't begrudge pg for trying it. If on the other hand if he made it hard to create a new user account that would be very bad for HN.
Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by lkozma on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @02:13AM (#5593545)
The needs for personal transportation might be very real, but they will fall away like a house of cards in the face of issues like the (non-)availability of fossil fuels, the destruction of the environment, etc.
Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by jacquesm on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @03:55AM (#5593849)
No, those needs will only go up. That they won't be serviced is a different matter.