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Re:Sailfish – An open source mobile OS by pekk on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:05AM (#5576386)
Rejecting a new thing out of hand because it isn't the current popular thing is a classic example of "middlebrow dismissal".

Android is not perfect and was not always a popular thing and there is room for more than one mobile platform.

Re:Sailfish – An open source mobile OS by yardie on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:40AM (#5576560)
I agree with you. Too bad HP did not. WebOS was really fantastic and just a bit ahead of its time performance wise. I feel like I'm one of the few users that "got it".

It is good to see another opensource OS step into the arena.

Re:Sailfish – An open source mobile OS by firefoxman1 on Friday April 19, 2013 @02:28PM (#5578009)
I think there were a lot of us who got it. Palm's hardware division, marketing dept. and whoever sucked at wooing carriers didn't get it.
Re:Sailfish – An open source mobile OS by untog on Friday April 19, 2013 @02:51PM (#5578111)
How about rejecting a new thing because it lacks the backing necessary to succeed? Both Firefox OS and Ubuntu are backed by organisations with larger pockets, and Firefox at least has agreements with phone providers.
Re:Sailfish – An open source mobile OS by jkaljundi on Friday April 19, 2013 @03:39PM (#5578328)
Sailfish has the backing of China's largest mobile phone retailer D.Phone Group, with 2000 stores and 150 million customers. That can be much more valuable to get the OS in the hands of real customers than a good brand name in other IT sectors.
Re:Sailfish – An open source mobile OS by stevenameyer on Friday April 19, 2013 @11:41AM (#5577204)
True, but there is an argument that could be made that mobile ecosystems have become heavily relient on a strong third party development community which is likely to be almost non-existent on a new OS. As well expectation have been raised as far as what a mobile OS does and the level of polish.

There is certainly things wrong with Android and iOS and I'm not saying that a new popular mobile OS is not possible but there are certainly a lot more challenges that need to be over come then even a couple years ago. I am pretty sure that Android and iOS v1 would not have been overly successful if they had been released into the mobile OS landscape that currently exists.

Re:Sailfish – An open source mobile OS by mikegioia on Friday April 19, 2013 @11:58AM (#5577295)
Current mobile ecosystems definitely have become heavily reliant on 3rd party apps. That doesn't mean it's the only way a mobile OS (or any OS) can succeed, nor does it imply that you need to hit a critical mass of app developers for it to be successful.

I think the Ubuntu phone will run regular Ubuntu apps and the Firefox OS treats web apps as first class citizens. Those two are leveraging pre-existing applications.

Aside from that, the only apps I use on my phone are the browser, google maps, and google voice. Who's to say the massive 3rd party application pool is even needed for an OS to really be successful? What if Sailfish just had very few really well-written and privacy-respecting apps that they sold for like $20?

Re:Sailfish – An open source mobile OS by stevenameyer on Friday April 19, 2013 @12:17PM (#5577385)
I'm not disagreeing with the fact that taking a different approach to a mobile OS could be successful, simply that there is a certain expectation that people have about mobile and if you are not following that then you will have to convince people that this way is better.

Is this possible? of course, if its better it will win out. But this is definitely a hurdle that needs to be over come. Convincing people that they way they are use to is worse then an alternative is often a difficult task, especially for a device that pretty much never leaves someone's side. I even notice that people often have a lot of difficulty switching between Android and iOS if they have used one for a significant period of time, and most of the differences between these two platforms are fairly minimal.

Re:Sailfish – An open source mobile OS by BariumBlue on Saturday April 20, 2013 @05:45AM (#5580900)
being skeptical isn't being dismissive. There's alot of software that simply never takes off for one reason or another, so an air of skepticism is reasonable. It looks nice, but simply being "nice" or a small amount better won't amount to much.