Re:Things I Wish I Had Known Before We Got Married
by michaelwww on Friday April 19, 2013 @04:29PM
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False dichotomy? Science is based on verifiable facts and religion is based on belief and faith. This is the place for a debate and I won't engage in one, but I couldn't let that one go. Adding 'Christian' in front of biologist doesn't extend the science in the least.
Re:Things I Wish I Had Known Before We Got Married
by jacques_chester on Friday April 19, 2013 @01:36AM
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The main problem -- finding it difficult to live with a person -- is largely ameliorated amongst couples for whom Scripture-with-a-capital-S and references to Christian biologists (why does their faith matter?) is not part of the ordinary discussion.
Re:Things I Wish I Had Known Before We Got Married
by ars on Friday April 19, 2013 @02:18AM
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What's the difference between "shacking up" and getting married? Other than a piece of paper.
But I agree that getting married as young as possible is a good idea. (And I don't care if you call it marriage, or living together - it's effectively the same thing.)
And Scripture recommends getting married young BTW, so your distinction doesn't exist.
People who get married later in life have a hard time adjusting to having someone else in their life who needs to be their number one priority.
Re:Things I Wish I Had Known Before We Got Married
by ahoyhere on Friday April 19, 2013 @12:06PM
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Having both lived with people and married one, and being absolutely atheistic, and someone who previously thought "it's just a piece of paper"... it's not, and I was wrong. Being married is different.
What's different about it? I'm not 100% sure. But none of the guys I lived with (for years) caused me the kind of angst that my husband did at first, when I moved in with him and immediately got married a few weeks after. (Prior, we didn't really live together before marriage except for weeks/months at a time at the others' apartment, living in different countries.) I'd never had a terrible "adjustment period" before, but did this time… and believe me, on paper, previous boyfriends were way more annoying than my husband was, even in those first few months. We got through it, obviously. I'm grateful for him every day.
I'd always been a committed and faithful girlfriend to the others but it just isn't the same as being married. Which surprised me as much as anyone.
Intellectual types underrate the importance of ceremony. I now believe that's a mistake.
Re:Things I Wish I Had Known Before We Got Married
by ahoyhere on Saturday April 20, 2013 @07:20PM
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And I quote:
"...however, studies have shown that the effect is not entirely explained by individual characteristics like religion, education or politics. Research suggests that at least some of the risks may lie in cohabitation itself."
Re:Things I Wish I Had Known Before We Got Married
by geon on Friday April 19, 2013 @05:47AM
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Your emotional life will not be somehow better or mere genuine by just letting it roam free without any guidance. Introspection and self criticism is useful to self improvments. I don't see how doing it systematically would be harmful.
Re:Things I Wish I Had Known Before We Got Married
by EliRivers on Friday April 19, 2013 @05:23AM
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The vast majority of my experience suggests that analysing important factors significantly improves decision making and radically improves the odds of a far superior outcome. Do you have any evidence that thinking carefully about how you feel makes one a bad husband? I would have thought just the opposite.
Because they shack up before getting married.
But I agree that getting married as young as possible is a good idea. (And I don't care if you call it marriage, or living together - it's effectively the same thing.)
And Scripture recommends getting married young BTW, so your distinction doesn't exist.
People who get married later in life have a hard time adjusting to having someone else in their life who needs to be their number one priority.
There are legal and, for people who care, religious differences.
There's also some reasons to believe that cohabitating before marriage (to the same person) leads to higher rates of divorce: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/opinion/sunday/the-downsid...
What's different about it? I'm not 100% sure. But none of the guys I lived with (for years) caused me the kind of angst that my husband did at first, when I moved in with him and immediately got married a few weeks after. (Prior, we didn't really live together before marriage except for weeks/months at a time at the others' apartment, living in different countries.) I'd never had a terrible "adjustment period" before, but did this time… and believe me, on paper, previous boyfriends were way more annoying than my husband was, even in those first few months. We got through it, obviously. I'm grateful for him every day.
I'd always been a committed and faithful girlfriend to the others but it just isn't the same as being married. Which surprised me as much as anyone.
Intellectual types underrate the importance of ceremony. I now believe that's a mistake.
The problem with seeing this as a causal relationship from cohabitation to divorce is that there's no control for religious belief.
The same religious beliefs and social structures that deter pre-marriage cohabitation also create pressure not to divorce.
"...however, studies have shown that the effect is not entirely explained by individual characteristics like religion, education or politics. Research suggests that at least some of the risks may lie in cohabitation itself."