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Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by whacked_new on Friday April 10, 2009 @12:22AM (#555693)
I don't understand why it had to be TC to create this device. Its usefulness is blatantly obvious; all Arrington did was list the specs and declare his intention to have it made.

To rephrase, why hasn't the industry been able to do this? They are the ones who have made this possible anyhow; it is not very innovative on a technical level; it is obviously a good idea. What took them so long?

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by axod on Friday April 10, 2009 @07:50AM (#555933)
>> "Its usefulness is blatantly obvious"

Please explain for me. I have an iPhone for portability, I have a laptop for semi portability. I have a mac mini for watching movies etc.

I can't think of how a tablet device like that would be useful. It's sort of too big and delicate to take traveling - nothing to protect the screen, so a laptop or netbook wins there.

The only use I can imagine is having it in the kitchen on the wall to look up recipes :/

Perhaps "the industry hasn't been able to do this" because there's not a proven market there. Further, there have been several tablet type laptops with flimsy swively screens, most of which seem total failures.

I can completely see geeks buying this. But that's a small market and one which I don't think you can make a lot of money from.

Also could the packaging be any more copied from Apple packaging?

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by whacked_new on Friday April 10, 2009 @10:02AM (#556039)
Basically a lightweight, handheld, kiosk computer. It is what Microsoft's Origami should have been.

Although now you bring it up, I don't know the biggest reason behind Origami's failure. Maybe I overestimate its usefulness. I can see Walmart and such taking a big interest though, for inventory control and also modified for in-store use. But you may be right.

As for the packaging, unless Apple is truly the one that started this kind of packaging (which I doubt, but could be wrong, but also wouldn't care), it doesn't strike me as an Apple rip. To me, they're all obnoxious... to hell with the "experience" :-P

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by fiaz on Friday April 10, 2009 @08:34AM (#555963)
I can see my parents each buying one of these. I can see my siblings buying one of these for each of their kids.

I would never buy one of these because my tech needs, like yours, are a bit more "nuanced" depending upon my need at the moment.

Look at this as a "gateway" device for people that aren't as "hardcore" as you or I.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by skwiddor on Friday April 10, 2009 @10:12AM (#556053)
Mom, Davey stood on my tablet and all goo is coming out of it
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by froo on Friday April 10, 2009 @01:00PM (#556317)
Please explain for me.

Well, my grandmother is technically inept, the concept of computers scare her - the keyboard, mouse, so many wires etc. It becomes a little overwhelming.

This sort of device would be something she could use to play games like solitaire, perhaps read emails from family (maybe sending them back depending on how easy it is to use) and generally, it would be more instinctual for her to touch the things she wants to navigate, rather than have to grab a mouse and direct it to click onto what she wants to look at.

It's a device for people who aren't like us. The odd thing is that it will be pushed by techcrunch - I hope they have a more direct to consumer marketing plan in mind than just advertising on techcrunch, as I think they'll really be missing out on it's real potential.

The technological device for people scared by technology

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by greendestiny on Friday April 10, 2009 @09:36AM (#556000)
Using the internet on the couch, in the kitchen, around the house, in the shed. Probably the biggest usage factors are that its always open and it has a big screen.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by keeptrying on Sunday April 12, 2009 @01:03PM (#558620)
I find myself using the iphone while I'm in the house. Just because I dont want to lug my laptop around. The number of applications you could build for this.

Hang in next to your door.

1. Have it show your daily schedule, weather, errands as you walk out the door. You can add to the schedule and errands/todos from your iphone, computer at work etc. 2. Your gym routine for the day.

Keep it in your toilet.

* Browse the web/email while your on the toilet. * Have it play Pandora while your in the shower.

Keep it in the livign room.

* Instant TV guide.

Kitchen.

* Grocery list. * recpies

Essentially any application where you dont need telephony but you do want a big screen and a kiosk like interface. (Ie where a keyboard is needed minimally).

My mom, would love such a thing. Instant on would be really nice in something like this.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by 10ren on Friday April 10, 2009 @03:46PM (#556681)
Also could the packaging be any more copied from Apple packaging?

Surely that's a plus, even though it's NIH.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by zmonteca on Friday April 10, 2009 @10:27AM (#556078)
In undergrad we had an intel prototype version of this (can't remember the exact name). It pretty much ruled because it was ~1998 and nothing even close to it existed (i.e. small and lightweight laptops). We couldn't figure out why a market didn't exist for the product either. Apparently after a fully functional prototype, Intel couldn't find a market for it either. Still puzzles to me.

Then big issues in the device then were lack of flash and lack of power. They claim those have been resolved. We shall see.

Will a device like this become ubiquitous? I can see it finding a home in the kitchen, next to the bed or on the coffee table. The key here is making it lightweight and not delicate. I'm thinking something more in between a TOUGHBOOK and a MacBook. Something you can drop in the kitchen and throw on the couch and have the kids play with. Perhaps, with a aim of $200 that doesn't even matter.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by axod on Friday April 10, 2009 @01:26PM (#556377)
One of the reasons a laptop is the design it is, is that the screen is positioned in a comfortable position for viewing. I can't really see how you can sit comfortably with a tablet like thing. Hold it with one hand and try to navigate with the other? Could get tiring.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by 10ren on Friday April 10, 2009 @03:41PM (#556676)
Books and paper have a similar problem. You can buy stands, and some desks have tilted surfaces.

The separation of input/output areas is an improvement on paper. Starting with the typewriter, it's been an enduring and ubiquitous design. Exceptions like the iPhone are primarily output.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by noonespecial on Friday April 10, 2009 @01:07AM (#555738)
Simple. Instead of our market research in the target demographics show that the average consumer wants... it was more like yaknow whatd be awesome!?.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by dkokelley on Friday April 10, 2009 @03:43AM (#555834)
I wish more new product development was done this way. Sure there would be more losers and if the market is efficient they will die quickly but the winners will be truly terrific.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by tlrobinson on Friday April 10, 2009 @05:51AM (#555888)
I suspect that's why Apple has been so successful with things like the iPod and iPhone.

They've also had a number of failures, but people don't really remember those (Newton, cube, etc)

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by redrobot5050 on Friday April 10, 2009 @11:57AM (#556210)
The Newton wasn't a failure. The first version sucked, but afterwards the handwriting recognition was spot on.

And do you know what the final newton designed by Apple turned into? The Palm Pilot.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by Zev on Friday April 10, 2009 @11:17AM (#556152)
Even Apple's failures managed to gain a small, rabid fanbase behind them. Possible exception being the HiFi.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by axod on Friday April 10, 2009 @07:51AM (#555934)
>> "yaknow whatd be awesome!?"

Often a recipe for total disaster - making something that's technically impressive, rather than something that people actually want.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by Zaak on Friday April 10, 2009 @01:42PM (#556416)
On the other hand, it's the only way to create something that people don't know they want until they see it.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by mkuhn on Friday April 10, 2009 @03:09AM (#555820)
IMHO this is what entrepreneurship is all about. You identify a need and then try to satisfy it... And Arrington had a good idea and he obviously managed to execute (probably) equally well... I just have to say, I'm impressed!
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by TomOfTTB on Friday April 10, 2009 @09:56AM (#556027)
I remember a quote that applies here but for the life of me I can't remember where I saw it. It was...

"Entrepreneurship is about believing something will sell even though every market measure says it won't and then implementing it even though every competitor says you'll fail"

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by smidwap on Friday April 10, 2009 @12:27AM (#555698)
Your thoughts parallel mine. At the very least, if this idea is so brilliant, why can't a company like Dell or Apple begin mass-producing these little tikes? Even with patents and all that legal mumbo-jumbo, I'm sure they could find something to sell. Makes me wonder if this product really will sell, or if the biggies just lost out on an early opportunity.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by rms on Friday April 10, 2009 @12:37AM (#555707)
>why can't a company like Dell or Apple begin mass-producing these little tikes?

If these tablets sell, they certainly will.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by whacked_new on Friday April 10, 2009 @01:56AM (#555775)
I was wondering if big companies were unable to produce these things cost effectively due to tie-ins and bundle deals or whatnot.

Oh, perhaps one thing is the requirement to fork a dev team to maintain a niche OS... methinks that's one of the biggest reasons?

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by fizx on Friday April 10, 2009 @04:43AM (#555857)
They could be afraid of cannibalizing sales of their more expensive gizmos.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by fiaz on Friday April 10, 2009 @08:42AM (#555966)
Arrington/TC are relatively close to the center of the technology blogging world, and so they see a lot of information. I'm certain that if anybody was exposed to as much of this information as he is, then they'd see some obvious patterns of where the industries are heading. So to spot a trend and formulate a concept/idea for a product from that point of view might contribute a great deal to the inspiration for creating such a device.

The ability for a non-engineer to connect resources together to produce the device is a function of Moore's Law.

If TC is really worth as much as 24/7 Wall St. and others have speculated, then the marketing dollars are taken care of. Also, Arrington is well known and a highly resourceful individual.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by tjogin on Friday April 10, 2009 @05:33AM (#555880)
Who could have possibly made it? Dell? HP? These guys think in the line of "more features is better". The whole industry does.

Apple? They choose to not compete on the low-end market.

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by agotterer on Friday April 10, 2009 @10:23AM (#556072)
The big boys may choose not to compete on the low end market, but that doesn't mean the market doesn't exist. Should KIA have never started making cars because they assumed no one wanted a cheap, low end vehicle?
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by tjogin on Friday April 10, 2009 @01:10PM (#556338)
I don't think I was even close to saying that the market doesn't exist.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by there on Friday April 10, 2009 @12:40AM (#555711)
> it is not very innovative on a technical level

seems like an ideal product for a y combinator startup!

Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by jonknee on Friday April 10, 2009 @12:55AM (#555725)
Takes more than $5k to make a device like this. Much more.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by there on Friday April 10, 2009 @01:04AM (#555735)
whooosh
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by jonknee on Friday April 10, 2009 @10:41AM (#556107)
Whoosh back, my point being that if you want real tech innovation it most often takes more than $5k.
Re:TechCrunch Tablet makes an early debut by jodrellblank on Friday April 10, 2009 @08:07AM (#555944)
Its usefulness is blatantly obvious, it is obviously a good idea

Bleedin' isn't. (Obvious, I mean).

"like a laptop but less powerful", "a netbook without the keyboard", "an iPod touch with gigantism", "a PDA that doesn't fit in your pocket", "a kindle without the high DPI screen or long battery life", "an OLPC without the low price tag or cool features".

Full TabletPCs never took off. They are more expensive and have the restricted form factor. TC is betting that it's the higher cost that stopped them. I'm betting it's the restricted form factor and resultant limited usefulness.

I predict TC will only sell them to the sort of person who sees a tablet, or a chumby or a clocky or any other of a dozen terrible devices on TC and comments "OMG OMG I WANT ONE". That may yet be a big enough market, so I'm not going to predict out and out failure yet.