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Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by DannyBee on Monday April 15, 2013 @10:44AM (#5551717)
1. I would "return to the battlefield" too after being treated like they are, even if i had done nothing before. What makes you think Gitmo is not the cause?

2. If the convention is outdated, update it. It's not like the US is pushing the Hague and others to convene treaty proceedings to get this done. Until the US actually takes any steps to try to fix this "problem", i take it as just a BS excuse.

3. You have a very strange view of what happens, one I can only imagine is contributed to mainly by local media. They do in fact, call Canada, Turkey, Sweden, and others. These are rarely, if ever, unilateral actions. Due to some folks i'm friends with, i've actually occasionally traveled with some of these kinds of delegations, and I assure you, none of this is "better call big brother US to beat these guys up".

4. They would never declassify a document that shows them having been wrong until at least 20-25 years after the fact.

Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by tibbon on Monday April 15, 2013 @11:01AM (#5551811)
Agreed, especially on #2. Let's have a new international war treaty that assigns basic human rights to all people
Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by dhimes on Monday April 15, 2013 @12:11PM (#5552276)
Be sure you figure out how to enforce it first, especially for those who kidnap kids and turn them into suicide bombers (apparently they give them a 'magic amulet' which they tell the children will protect them from the blast).

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/10/20121014102...

Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by tibbon on Monday April 15, 2013 @01:58PM (#5552996)
I don't think that we can change that. But what we can do is hold ourselves to a higher standard of decency and treat people the way we'd want to be treated.
Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by omegaham on Monday April 15, 2013 @05:04PM (#5554341)
The problem is that our ROE is seen as an act of weakness, not compassion.

Our ROE says not to shoot unarmed kids. So, the enemy puts suicide vests on kids and sends them at us.

Our ROE says not to shoot people who aren't carrying a weapon. So, they shoot at us, drop their weapon, and walk to the next building to do it again.

Our ROE says not to blow up a house if there are civilians inside. So they take a family hostage and shoot at us from upstairs.

My attitude is that we use these rules as a courtesy. We didn't bomb hospitals in WW2 because those hospitals weren't being used as shelter for soldiers. We didn't bomb orphanages because they didn't have IED factories in their basements. Today's enemy does that, and then people get butthurt when we blow up the orphanage. Well, stop putting bomb factories under there!

Laws of war only apply when both sides agree to abide by them.

Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by dhimes on Monday April 15, 2013 @02:40PM (#5553324)
On average I think (hope?) we do. But be careful about bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by tibbon on Monday April 15, 2013 @04:24PM (#5554056)
The issue with Gitmo is that we're no treating others as we'd want to be treated. 10+ years with no proof/trial, simply because we've made up a new word "enemy combatant" to circumvent the Geneva Conventions... not exactly cool.
Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by Pwnguinz on Monday April 15, 2013 @06:19PM (#5554807)
A new word for "enemy combatant", you mean, right? i.e. "Terrorists"