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Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by dspillett on Monday April 15, 2013 @05:19AM (#5550514)
> You don't need funding. Just send them home.

They would immediately try take legal action against the American administration through any and every international court available. Having been detained without sufficient evidence there is a case to answer, the US and their cohorts (let us not forget that several governments including ours in the UK have been shown to be complicit in rendition actions that deliberately circumvented international law) can't try ignore the issue with the "enemy combatants" and other such reasons without looking like complete hypocrites given how loud they shout when someone they care to defend is detained without what they consider to be sufficient evidence (Iran holding several naval officers for instance). Even more embarrassing: some of the people they are refusing to let go home to face/demand their own country's justice are American - they don't even want their own legal system anywhere near this.

tl;dr: Just letting them go would certainly not be cost free, financially or in terms of local and/or international reputation.

Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by tracker1 on Monday April 15, 2013 @05:30AM (#5550544)
That doesn't make what's happening the right thing to do... Well, if we just summarily execute them, then we don't need to take care of them... It's the fiscally responsible thing to do. I mean, war crimes are war crimes.
Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by dspillett on Monday April 15, 2013 @09:11AM (#5551260)
I'm not arguing that it is right in any way - just that the "if we just X it won't require any cost/effort" was a slightly naive PoV. My wording may not have made that clear.
Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by netfire on Monday April 15, 2013 @08:30AM (#5551059)
The interview in the story claims to be reported by the prisoner's lawyers. What prevents them from taking legal action now? What changes if their client is released?
Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by dspillett on Monday April 15, 2013 @09:17AM (#5551285)
By my understanding, their layers are pretty hamstrung. That they have them is something, but their arguments for presentation of evidence, fair trial, rights as stated in the Geneva convention, and so forth, are for the most part unsuccessful - usually falling to a simple response of "the national good" which comes back to the circular argument "present evidence of that risk to (inter)national interests", "we can't do that, it would be a risk to (inter)national interests".

Right now they still have "enemy combatant status" and are not in a position where they can push their defence any further or be helped by their own governments and/or legal systems (if said systems would in fact help: some would, some wouldn't). If they were freed without charge then they have a case for unfair detainment (where now any such claim will be replied to with "they haven't been charged yet, that might change") and if they were charged there would be something for them to try make a case against (where now it is someone's un-evidenced word against their's, neither side having much legal standing so the people holding the keys "win").

Re:Gitmo Is Killing Me by gregorymichael on Monday April 15, 2013 @11:17AM (#5551918)
Then we must stop pretending to be a country of justice, and admit we're only in it for our own self interest.