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Re:Denmark: 1,000 Megawatts Of Offshore Wind, And No Signs o... by gngeal on Sunday April 14, 2013 @05:17PM (#5548353)
"I love looking at windmills too but then I don't look and listen to them all day."

Is looking at them significantly worse than looking at the car traffic on a major street in the rush hour? As far as the sound is concerned, I doubt that the effects are anything more than purely psychological. There are established hygienic limits for a reason.

Re:Denmark: 1,000 Megawatts Of Offshore Wind, And No Signs o... by droopyEyelids on Sunday April 14, 2013 @05:38PM (#5548440)
Be careful to dismiss things as 'purely psychological'. Psychological disturbances affect people as much as physical disturbances, and in the end a psychological disturbance is a physical disturbance in the brain.
Re:Denmark: 1,000 Megawatts Of Offshore Wind, And No Signs o... by gngeal on Sunday April 14, 2013 @06:43PM (#5548714)
Yes, but in that case, you go to your psychologist/psychiatrist/neurologist to take care of yourself, not to your local energy provider.
Re:Denmark: 1,000 Megawatts Of Offshore Wind, And No Signs o... by jchrisa on Sunday April 14, 2013 @08:22PM (#5549032)
The aesthetic is the political...
Re:Denmark: 1,000 Megawatts Of Offshore Wind, And No Signs o... by lawnchair_larry on Sunday April 14, 2013 @06:29PM (#5548654)
Listening to them is problematic if they are too close to where you live. They're pretty loud, and it's a rhythmic low frequency drone sound. There are distance limits, but in places like Denmark where there is not a lot of room left to build them away from residences, there have been efforts to reduce these limits.

If I had to hear that pulsing all day, every day, during my sleep, for the rest of my life...I could see it being a problem.

Re:Denmark: 1,000 Megawatts Of Offshore Wind, And No Signs o... by gngeal on Sunday April 14, 2013 @06:35PM (#5548684)
"They're pretty loud, and it's a rhythmic low frequency drone sound."

I've seen some studies that indicated that the infra-sound levels from city traffic are significantly stronger than the noise coming from wind turbines conforming to established noise regulations. Do people have problems with the wind turbine noise? Some perhaps do, but why isn't the even stronger car noise a reason for a radical change in car noise hygienic limits within cities? It would be a hypocrisy to tackle one due to public pressure and ignore the other.

EDIT: Oh, and I also vaguely recall that the low-frequency sound caused by the wind interacting with buildings around you is also supposed to be stronger than the same frequency sound coming from distant wind turbines. (The stronger the wind, the stronger the noise from both sources, so it's always comparable.) It makes sense, if you think about it. The law of inverse squares and all that jazz.

"If I had to hear that pulsing all day, every day, during my sleep, for the rest of my life...I could see it being a problem."

I live next to a major city exit road. Before that, I lived in a house that had a freight railway station across the street. I've never noticed any problems.

Re:Denmark: 1,000 Megawatts Of Offshore Wind, And No Signs o... by Detrus on Sunday April 14, 2013 @08:26PM (#5549040)
There are some in depth documentaries and reports on it. I think the main issue is windmill hating people live in extremely quiet places and when you add any noise to them it's more distracting than already living in a louder area. Plus they occasionally make loud noises.

That said, the question of why those people are living in the middle of nowhere doesn't come up at all. I think that's the more important issue. If you want to reduce the environmental footprint, reducing the size of sprawl and suburban/rural population size would save a lot of energy.

Re:Denmark: 1,000 Megawatts Of Offshore Wind, And No Signs o... by vukk on Sunday April 14, 2013 @08:30PM (#5549059)
"I live next to a major city exit road. Before that, I lived in a house that had a freight railway station across the street. I've never noticed any problems."

For you, no problems. For others, there might be. And if you do have a problem for example falling asleep when there is sound, the sound from the turbines is nasty as with such low sound you can't block it with earplugs. I'm not saying you should care, just a fyi that some people do have to care about this for their own sanity.

Re:Denmark: 1,000 Megawatts Of Offshore Wind, And No Signs o... by Carlee on Sunday April 14, 2013 @06:15PM (#5548584)
I can tell you the sound is NOT purely psychological. I used to around 1-2km away from one. When the wind came from "the right" direction, it sounded like a thunderstorm.

I can't even imagine what it is like living even closer to one.