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Re:The Bitcoin Report 2 [pdf] by ricardobeat on Thursday April 11, 2013 @10:18PM (#5536179)
Does it even make sense to consider Bitcoin as a separate economy containing "no real value"? I see it more as an alternative banking system, the money it contains comes from real-world value and gets converted back into real-word products; it's not a virtual currency.
Re:The Bitcoin Report 2 [pdf] by samegreatsleeve on Thursday April 11, 2013 @10:25PM (#5536214)
It's only a separate economy to the extent that it isn't instantly being converted back into some other currency.

There is a genuine bitcoin economy, and it is centered around the trade of goods that are illegal: child porn, weapons, viruses, credit card numbers, and most important of all: illegal drugs.

The question is not whether there is potential for a non-government backed digital currency. The question is whether bitcoin will be effective in that role given the design of the currency.

If a better currency is invented that includes some kind of inflationary mechanism, perhaps the drug trade/etc will take up that currency. In that case bitcoin truly will die.

Re:The Bitcoin Report 2 [pdf] by matthew-wegner on Friday April 12, 2013 @12:19AM (#5536603)
I think this is a hugely important distinction. The linked-to analysis seems to assume that BTC are bought with USD, sit around in a wallet, and then come back out as USD.

When in fact, BTC's usefulness is its frictionless-but-secure, anonymous transactional nature. Its anonymity is even stronger if you mine coins yourself (or acquire coins directly from a miner for favors or whatever).

You can probably make the case that BTC must be deflationary, in order to draw in traders/investors, who actually provide necessary market liquidity to proxy BTC as USD, backing the worth of BTC-for-goods transactions...

Re:The Bitcoin Report 2 [pdf] by Nursie on Friday April 12, 2013 @05:28AM (#5537420)
It's not really anonymous though, transactions are publicly recorded for all time. It's also not 100% frictionless. There are fees and though they are currently low, they are there.
Re:The Bitcoin Report 2 [pdf] by matthew-wegner on Friday April 12, 2013 @01:24PM (#5539847)
I know there are transaction fees. I meant friction as--once you have BTC in a wallet, you are absolutely free to spend them as you wish. There is no way for anyone to prevent a transaction.

Bitcoin addresses are public but anonymous. But yes, you can analyze the public ledger to tie known data (publicly-posted donation addresses, etc) to try to de-anonymize someone. There are coin tumblers/mixers in place in some markets, although it's hard to tell how effective they are.

Re:The Bitcoin Report 2 [pdf] by DanBC on Friday April 12, 2013 @05:34AM (#5537434)