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Re:Bitcoin falls from $266 by Houshalter on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @09:28PM (#5529366)
No, it's not backed in the sense that it has a concrete value. No one is guaranteeing that a US dollar will buy you exactly a gallon of gas, an ounce of gold, or a bushel of wheat or anything like that.

It is "backed" in the sense that people need it to pay taxes, but exactly how much value that gives it is completely uncertain and only determined by the supply and demand of people spending it/accepting it. If there were to be a major economic shift, the value could change to be literally anything relative to the value of other goods (without the supply and demand of those goods actually changing.) It could even completely collapse and be worth nothing under the right conditions.

If it was actually backed in the traditional sense it would be guaranteed to be worth some amount of some good or combination of goods, regardless what happens, regardless how many people are spending it or accepting it.

Re:Bitcoin falls from $266 by Cushman on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @11:20PM (#5529776)
And who guarantees that an ounce of gold will buy me some amount of wheat? Or that a bushel of wheat will give me some amount of energy when eaten? Only a very powerful entity can make such guarantees.

On that basis I would say that the word of the United States is far more intrinsically valuable than any physical object.

Re:Bitcoin falls from $266 by Houshalter on Thursday April 11, 2013 @02:44AM (#5530344)
Gold has generally had stable value throughout history, but you are right that it isn't guaranteed. Other commodities like wheat are a little harder to use to back a currency, but from year to year they are fairly stable and pretty much guaranteed to have some value whatever happens.

But US dollars aren't guaranteed to do anything for you either in such a situation. The currency could hyper-inflate tomorrow for all anyone knows, and it has no intrinsic value other than the requirement to pay taxes with it. It seems to work fine as a currency and maintain stable value, but the point is it really isn't backed by anything.

Re:Bitcoin falls from $266 by Cushman on Thursday April 11, 2013 @11:22AM (#5532510)
Gold has been stabilized through history because it has been used as currency by powerful governments. If the powerful governments of the world collapse, they will lose control of their large gold reserves at the same time they lose the ability to feed their citizens. What do you suppose will happen to the commodity markets then?

Nothing, neither gold nor grain, is backed by anything but power. Fiat currency is just the government accepting that responsibility de jure.

Re:Bitcoin falls from $266 by thatthatis on Thursday April 11, 2013 @12:25AM (#5529984)
You do realize that modern fiscal policy near zero.

Ergo, a dollar today is guaranteed, on the average, to buy just under a today's dollar worth of things next year.

Ergo, a modern dollar is about the closest thing to a guaranteed exchange value that the world has ever seen.

Re:Bitcoin falls from $266 by Houshalter on Thursday April 11, 2013 @02:46AM (#5530350)
Yes, it is a huge economy that has decades to stabilize, unlike bitcoin. My point is that it still isn't backed by anything. There is absolutely no guarantee that it will buy anything next year except what people next year are willing to give you in exchange for it (which could change due to a lot of factors.)

Being stable in value, and being guaranteed to have value are two very different things.