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Re:Fulfilling the promise of an officeless world by enraged_camel on Tuesday April 09, 2013 @07:29PM (#5522183)
Doctors don't start out with $150-200k. Remember that they have to go through residency first, during which they make $40-60k. Which may sound decent, but when you realize they have to work 80+ hours AND with a ton of debt, it's actually pretty dismal.

Even after that though, they make around 125-175k. Most doctors do not start making over 200k until ten or more years of practice. And again, that's with around 1500-1900 hours per year, which is considerably more than most software engineers.

Re:Fulfilling the promise of an officeless world by bartonfink on Tuesday April 09, 2013 @08:48PM (#5522506)
1500-1900 hours per year is considerably more than most software engineers? Are you sure you haven't miscalculated somewhere along the way to derive that?

Assuming we're talking about the US, I just don't see how that assertion can hold water. 2000 hours per year is a widely-held rule of thumb for "full time" employment - 40 hours a week * 50 work weeks per year. 1500 hours means you average a 30 hour work week or take a tremendous amount of vacation - neither of which sound anything like the employment situations for "most software engineers."

Re:Fulfilling the promise of an officeless world by enraged_camel on Tuesday April 09, 2013 @09:21PM (#5522642)
Sorry, I fat-fingered it. I meant 2500-2900 hours per year.
Re:Fulfilling the promise of an officeless world by pc86 on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @08:39AM (#5524688)
I don't want to nit pick, but even 2500 hours a year is only 52-53 hours a week with 4 weeks off for vacation every year. Use the 2900 figure and you're still just barely over 60 with a month for vacation. Not a bad deal to make ~4x the median US salary.

I understand what you're saying though. It's a lot "easier" to go to school for four years, make $90-120k and have $0-40k in student debt than it is to go to school for a decade, make $125-175k and have $80-150k in student debt. But truthfully, when you have that kind of buying power you can live like a student for just two more years and completely pay off your debt (or very close to it). Software developers usually don't have that kind of buying power. Outside of the Valley and NYC an entry-level developer may only make $30k a year. Even a $200-300/mo student loan payment at that income is tight.

Re:Fulfilling the promise of an officeless world by nilkn on Tuesday April 09, 2013 @11:08PM (#5522988)
Yeah, I meant those numbers to be post-residency.

$125k may not seem like much to anyone on here used to Silicon Valley prices. But that's more than my parents paid for their very nice two-story home with a massive backyard (large enough for a pool, a large shed, a fort, a kennel, and then plenty of open space to spare). My parents' home was big enough that they had a reputation for being rich in my hometown as I grew up even though their combined income was about $80k.