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Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by InclinedPlane on Monday April 08, 2013 @07:39AM (#5511093)
Newsflash: it's extraordinarily unlikely that you live in a country with stronger protection of freedom of speech than the US. In fact, if you live in Europe you almost certainly don't.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by Uchikoma on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:18AM (#5511227)
If you live in a free county, say fuck on TV. If not don't lecture others about free speech.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by nkozyra on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:44AM (#5511330)
We have plenty of channels using the word "fuck" on tv at any given moment. In fact, it's highly likely that you regularly watch a few of those shows.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by Uchikoma on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:56AM (#5511370)
Actually no. I prefer shows from the UK.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by thisone on Monday April 08, 2013 @09:14AM (#5511441)
After the watershed in the UK, strong language[1] may be used on telly.

[1, contains actual strong language]http://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/page/guidance-langu...

Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by nkozyra on Monday April 08, 2013 @09:20AM (#5511471)
You don't watch a single US-produced television program. I believe this.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by mistercow on Monday April 08, 2013 @06:06PM (#5514968)
Your sarcasm indicates that you think this is somehow a preposterous concept. Despite being American, I have not watched a single American TV show in more than a month, and that instance was a single episode at a party gathered to share food and watch it (I was there for the people, not the show).

Granted, I watch very little TV, but what I do watch is from the UK.

Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by Uchikoma on Monday April 08, 2013 @10:27AM (#5511844)
My point was not that I do not watch US produced TV shows (though I only watch TV on Sunday) but that it is not highly likely that I watch some of the shows with "fuck" in them, because I mostly watch UK shows which makes it highly unlikely that I watch one of those.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by aegiso on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:40AM (#5511312)
You can do this in most parts of the Western world. Make your own TV station and say "fuck". Nobody will stop you.

Freedom isn't the right to inject arbitrary programming into someone else's commercial enterprise.

Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by Uchikoma on Monday April 08, 2013 @09:06AM (#5511411)
In most countries you can say what you like if no one can listen to it (imagine a desert or the largeness of the taiga). If the commercial enterprise is the only way that people can hear you, and those oligopolies censor you with a peep or take down your website for commercial reasons, it doesn't matter your government is strong on freedom of speech.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by rayiner on Monday April 08, 2013 @09:37AM (#5511557)
If you live in a free country, go up to someone and call them a hateful racial epithet and suffer as your only punishment the dirty looks of others.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by linuxhansl on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @02:28AM (#5523535)
That's nice and all. But it didn't help in this case, didn't it?
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by hmottestad on Monday April 08, 2013 @07:44AM (#5511111)
Any references?
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by dagw on Monday April 08, 2013 @07:50AM (#5511126)
References to what? The fact that Europe has lots of laws restricting free speech?
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by hmottestad on Monday April 08, 2013 @07:54AM (#5511137)
Europe has almost no laws. We are not like the US.

The EU does enforce a bunch of laws. So does the EEA.

So I would like a good example of a law from a european country that is not the UK or eastern europe.

Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by mattsfrey on Monday April 08, 2013 @09:12AM (#5511431)
As despicable as it may be, you will be jailed in Germany for espousing anti-Semitic views or denying the Holocaust etc, and in Britain you can be jailed for "hate speech" e.g. making racist statements. Personally I think it is insane that you can literally be jailed over speech, regardless of how unsavory it is. Canada has the hate-speech law as well.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by jasonlotito on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:22AM (#5511240)
30 seconds into Wikipedia:

> So I would like a good example of a law from a european country

Germany "Insulting of Faiths, Religious Societies and Organizations Dedicated to a Philosophy of Life if they could disturb public peace (Section 166)."

On topic, Switzerland tried to censor essentially the same thing (livestock farming practices) and was sued for it. They lost.

Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by ubernostrum on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:10AM (#5511195)
Try publishing information about a criminal trial, or about an auction of WWII memorabilia, in "almost no laws" places like France or Germany, and let me know how it goes.
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by sergiosgc on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:59AM (#5511388)
Criminal trials, in much of Europe, are protected by privacy of justice laws, until the proceedings are complete. Then, the information is free.

I view that as a good thing, as it prevents mob justice on the media. Let the courts decide, on their own timing, we can analyse the result later; instead of condemning someone in the public view, only to find out later she is an innocent with a forever tarnished reputation.

Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by redblacktree on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:02PM (#5512922)
You didn't address the WWII memorabilia. Also, are you free to say that the holocaust didn't happen?
Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by sergiosgc on Monday April 08, 2013 @05:41PM (#5514823)
I am in Europe and, yes, I'm free to deny the holocaust publicly and I'm free to sell WWII memorabilia. Portugal does not suffer from public order problems with neo nazi groups.

It will take probably one more generation for Germany to be able to lift those restrictions. WWII was a big event, and it is emotionally charged still today. I think their approach to limiting free speech is an extraordinary measure to deal with extraordinary circumstances. It is not an easy decision, was heavily discussed among Germans, and is widely accepted by the population. While not ideal, it's acceptable and well managed. And limited in time.

Re:Taping of Farm Cruelty Is Becoming the Crime by mayneack on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:17AM (#5511224)
So which country are you talking about then?