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Re:Ayn Rand's Literature of Capitalism by gwenhwyfaer on Saturday September 15, 2007 @01:55PM (#54956)
That, and that when it was pointed out, his response was a non sequitur in the purest sense. Anyone who claims the mantle of rationality ought to have a better grasp of basic logic than that.
Re:Ayn Rand's Literature of Capitalism by wyday on Saturday September 15, 2007 @03:58PM (#54987)
When I wrote: "OK. And because of this Rand isn't?"

I meant to write: "OK. And because of this Rand isn't a good writer?".

It's not a non sequitur, just a typo.

Re:Ayn Rand's Literature of Capitalism by gwenhwyfaer on Saturday September 15, 2007 @04:34PM (#54999)
Yes, it is a non sequitur, in that it doesn't follow from the given premises. All that does follow is that one can't determine whether she's a good writer just because she's popular.
Re:Ayn Rand's Literature of Capitalism by wyday on Saturday September 15, 2007 @04:48PM (#55006)
The statement (or at least the fixed one) does follow from the given premise. Just because you disagree with the premise (that popularity might be evidence of quality) doesn't make it non sequitur.

To save myself from repeating the same argument as the few threads above this, I'll just link to it:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=54920

Re:Ayn Rand's Literature of Capitalism by gwenhwyfaer on Saturday September 15, 2007 @05:11PM (#55015)
Right. You know, finally I did what one of us should have done some 8 or 9 messages back - I went and checked what you actually wrote:

> the popularity of her books suggests otherwise [my emphasis]

In other words, you weren't actually making the claim I thought you were - that popularity implies quality. So I'm sorry for missing your point originally.

I do disagree that popularity is evidence of quality; popularity is only evidence of broad appeal, and you'd still need to demonstrate a correlation between broad appeal and quality - I contend that no correlation exists. But that's a reasonable debate, not a logical fallacy.

But I have to ask - why didn't you tell me that I was refuting an argument you hadn't made...?