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Re:Problems with the TSA by cj on Saturday March 30, 2013 @10:24PM (#5467433)
I really don't like most of the TSA's procedures either, but watching the hidden camera video, it seems like the OP went in to the situation expecting to have an issue with the TSA. If you approach the TSA adversarially, it's logical that they'd respond unpleasantly.

OP: In a patronizing tone: "You're required to accept it, and to screen it. You have the means available to screen it, namely xray and explosive trace detection"

TSA: "Sir, where are you going?"

OP: "That's none of your business"

Re:Problems with the TSA by Samuel_Michon on Saturday March 30, 2013 @10:48PM (#5467494)
“If you approach the TSA adversarially, it's logical that they'd respond unpleasantly.”

Why? Aren't they trained to deal with all kinds of people and types of behavior, like anyone in a customer facing profession? If I go to an Apple Store to buy a product while I'm in a bad mood and don't feel up for chit-chat, the sales rep isn't going to make me play nice.

Also, I think Sai was very courteous and patient, given the situation. He obviously knew that if he had actually raised his voice or made a scene, he'd be giving them an excuse not to cooperate. Nonetheless, in the video one of the TSA agents told him to calm down while he was clearly quite calm. That's the kind of shenanigans we see again and again from the TSA.

Re:Problems with the TSA by cj on Saturday March 30, 2013 @11:06PM (#5467538)
If a cop stops you on the street because he thinks you look suspicious, how do you respond?

1) "It's none of your business. I'm going to start recording you to make sure you handle this situation legally"

2) "I'm just rolling a cigarette. Don't worry it's not weed!"

Although most people don't like answering to authority, especially when they aren't required to, option #2 is the path of least resistance. That said, I do respect people like the OP who take the first approach and challenge authority.

Re:Problems with the TSA by nandemo on Sunday March 31, 2013 @12:35AM (#5467716)
Here's a slightly different example that's still hopefully in the spirit of yours.

You're walking in a busy area and a pair of cops stops you and asks you to show your ID and the contents of your bag.

1) Show the ID (which you're required to in this country, if you're a non-citizen), but not the contents of your bag. 1a) Optionally, ask the policemen's ID and write down their names.

2) Show both the ID and the contents of your bag.

This happened to me a while ago, in Tokyo. Apparently most people do #2. The cops were very surprised that I chose option #1a. It took 15 minutes for them to give up. Apparently most people either don't know that cops cannot search you without probable cause, or they know but don't care. I don't think you need to be particularly courageous to say "no" to a cop, when it's your right to do so and you live in a place where the law is upheld.

Incidentally, I would never antagonize a TSA person or an US immigrant officer like that, as I have no idea of what laws (if any) would protect me, as a non-citizen.

Re:Problems with the TSA by Samuel_Michon on Saturday March 30, 2013 @11:12PM (#5467552)
Option 3: don't talk to cops. Ask if you're being detained – if the answer is 'no': leave. These people are not your friends.
Re:Problems with the TSA by saraid216 on Saturday March 30, 2013 @11:30PM (#5467590)
> If a cop stops you on the street because he thinks you look suspicious, how do you respond?

This depends entirely on how much faith I have in the cop's capacity to operate within his legal boundaries.

Re:Problems with the TSA by ibejoeb on Saturday March 30, 2013 @10:40PM (#5467475)
He does expect to have a problem, and he documented it.

It's not a hidden camera. He tells them he's recording.

It's not okay to mischaracterize the situation.

Re:Problems with the TSA by cj on Saturday March 30, 2013 @11:11PM (#5467548)
Ah, ok. I missed the part about the camera not being hidden.
Re:Problems with the TSA by coudron on Saturday March 30, 2013 @10:30PM (#5467452)
Yeah, It's clear he was looking for an argument.
Re:Problems with the TSA by glenra on Sunday March 31, 2013 @02:33AM (#5467926)
Except that it really IS none of their business, and we're collectively better off if the TSA periodically gets TOLD that when they ask nosy stupid random questions.
Re:Problems with the TSA by kybernetyk on Sunday March 31, 2013 @04:04AM (#5468062)
So if you don't want to have your rights violated you have to be nice to the authorities? That's absurd.