Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by cperciva on Saturday March 30, 2013 @04:06PM
(#5466493)
# freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE
... wait while the new release is downloaded ...
# freebsd-update install
... watch the new kernel get installed ...
# shutdown -r now
... wait while the box reboots ...
# freebsd-update install
... watch the new world get installed
And you're done.
Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by bborud on Saturday March 30, 2013 @06:55PM
(#5466949)
right:
# freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found.
Fetching public key from update5.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update3.freebsd.org... failed.
Fetching public key from update4.freebsd.org... failed.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.
Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by cperciva on Sunday March 31, 2013 @05:27AM
(#5468191)
Which version of FreeBSD are you running? Usually people get that because freebsd-update cannot fetch metadata for the release they're running.
Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by bborud on Sunday March 31, 2013 @07:47AM
(#5468421)
7.2-STABLE
Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by cperciva on Sunday March 31, 2013 @02:34PM
(#5469625)
That's the problem then -- you need to be running a release. The argument being that if you can get yourself to -STABLE, you're obviously comfortable with source upgrades.
Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by emaste on Wednesday April 03, 2013 @11:33AM
(#5486716)
That's certainly fair, although the error message gives no indication of that and appears to be a problem with the FreeBSD-update infrastructure.
Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by profquail on Sunday March 31, 2013 @09:52AM
(#5468623)
You should post this on the FreeBSD forums -- there are a lot of helpful people there who can help you troubleshoot this.
Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by pifflesnort on Saturday March 30, 2013 @08:47PM
(#5467208)
It looks like your network is failing.
Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by bborud on Sunday March 31, 2013 @07:48AM
(#5468422)
It isn't.
Re:The FreeBSD Foundation Is Soliciting Project Proposals
by pifflesnort on Saturday March 30, 2013 @08:52PM
(#5467220)
I'll leave freebsd-update aside, since Colin already touched on that.
I too am old, and often extremely grumpy. That said, I think you might be having a "senior moment" regarding your recollection of administering SunOS systems, if you're comparing the hassle of SunOS to FreeBSD.
I'm old and grumpy and I just want my computers to work. Even though I did spend a lot of years hacking more than a dozen different UNIX flavors, it is close to 15 years since I found the easter-egg hunt of upgrading he OS even vaguely satisfying.
About a decade ago I discovered Ubuntu. I had just gotten a new ThinkPad and I needed to install Linux on it. I started the install and went back to hacking. At the end of the day I checked in my code and I remembered that oh fuck I'm installing Linux and now it is time to fight with X11 for the rest of the day in order to get a vaguely acceptable X11 setup. Better call my wife and say that I'd be spending the rest of the evening at the office swearing at my computer and using the competition's search engine to look for "X11" and "ThinkPad".
Except that didn't happen. I touched the keyboard and there was the X11 login screen. Just like that. Wow.
And Ubuntu just kept getting better over the next years. Until it reached a point where upgrading it was just a matter of running a few commands and reboot. Neat.
Of course, some time in 2006 I developed a serious case of suspend-envy and I ditched Ubuntu for OSX and a MacBook Pro. Imagine that: just being able to slap your laptop closed, carry it off somewhere, open it and it would just work. Without me having to spend about one man-week per year trying to make my laptop not self-destruct by burning its way through my backpack.
Funny that: me growing tired of constantly having to manage the operating system and fiddle around with the kernel to make my computer stay out of my way while I am programming.
It took me a good 6 months to get used to all the annoying aspects of using a Mac to develop software. But you know what: I got to spend more time programming and less dicking around with the OS so I was happy.
Of course, in 2008 I got the crazy idea that I wanted to store all my photos on a computer that had a decent filesystem. FreeBSD had ZFS, so while I wasn't overly fond of FreeBSD, I thought ZFS was worth the hassle. The downside is that FreeBSD, while a good basic OS, never quite grew up. It is still a pain in the ass to manage because it is no different from back in the 1990s when I made a living setting up SunOS machines for the math and chemistry department at my local university. Or dicking around with Ultrix at the mechanics dept. Upgrading the OS back then was like performing brain surgery. You needed notes and you needed to remember all the weird-ass quirks and pitfalls.
The other day I realized that my storage server is running an old version of FreeBSD and could do with an upgrade. Only I've forgotten the procedure and when reading up on it I realized that ... boy this sucks ass.
What is mostly annoying is that people think this is okay. It is like having to listen to people who think that the Model T Ford was the pinnacle of automotive usability: http://www.modelt.ca/drive-fs.html
This is 2013. Excuse me if I don't find manually upgrading operating systems amusing.