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Re:How driverless cars will affect our cities by rayiner on Friday March 29, 2013 @09:07AM (#5460486)
This sounds like some perverse suburban fantasy. To an extent I'm okay with the idea of people following their preferences, but the fact is that the market is being undermined by municipalities in this case. All those land owners in San Francisco are halting further development of the city, driving prices artificially through the roof and driving people who might prefer to be in a more urban setting into the suburban wasteland. Where at least now they can tool around in their robotic cars. Fucking wonderful.

On a less bitter note: as someone who lives in the future (future circa 1930) and spends 0% of his day in unproductive commuting, you west coast folks are in for a treat in 20-25 years when (if) this happens. That extra hour or so a day of unstructured time to read, surf the net, or just veg is really wonderful.

Re:How driverless cars will affect our cities by potatolicious on Friday March 29, 2013 @11:02AM (#5461071)
Like virmundi brought up, landowners are not the bottleneck in San Francisco - if anything they'd love to knock over that 3-story Victorian and put a huge apartment building in its place. After all, those 5 apartments in his existing building cannot possibly be worth as much as 30 brand new ones, no matter how stratospheric the rent gets.

The root cause of almost every San Franciscan problem is rampant NIMBYism. Look at a bus map on the city and notice how closely the stops are spaced together - you have buses that stop on literally every block due to local lobbying, and any attempt to remove some redundant stops to make things run faster elicits an incredible wail from local constituents for whom the only thing that matters is themselves.

Development is the same story. People moved to SF for the pretty Victorians they get to see when walking down the street, and any attempts to change this landscape, no matter how mindful of history, art, and architecture, is struck down to preserve the status quo (wherein the status quo is a sick, perverse emulation of the early 1900s).

San Francisco is the city where everyone is trying to squeeze through a very small door, while the people who just squeezed through are busy trying to slam the door shut behind themselves.

Re:How driverless cars will affect our cities by rayiner on Friday March 29, 2013 @11:03AM (#5461083)
I agree with you, I should have used "resident" instead of "land owner." The people that vote on the municipal boards, whoever they are.
Re:How driverless cars will affect our cities by virmundi on Friday March 29, 2013 @09:28AM (#5460568)
I agree with the fantasy part. I do want to point out that the landowners are not necessarily halting building, but they are limited with what they can do. San Fran needs to build up. Unfortunately, they are not allowed (http://www.planetizen.com/node/39697).