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Re:Things You Think Aren’t Sexist, But Really Are by danso on Monday March 25, 2013 @04:16PM (#5439446)
I imagine this is going to be controversial:

> Listen, guys. You have to stop trying to pick up women at conferences. You just have to stop doing it. Again, context matters: you’re not just hanging out at a bar drinking with your buddies, chatting up the attractive woman sitting next to you. You’re at an industry function, talking to women who are your industry peers. They’re simply not there to be hit on – even in ways that might not be creepy in another setting

I think the problem here is that hitting on someone is sexual, not sexist. However, in an environment where the gender balance is so skewed, what is sexual almost unavoidably leads to a sexist atmosphere.

To put it another way, the problems of being hit on apply to gay men. It is not inextricably linked to male-over-female dynamic.

So I agree with the overall intent of the OP here. I think many reasonable guys would be defensive about acting like normal sexual creatures...however, it is important to not vilify sex, but to point out how it can lead to unintended consequences in this kind of environment.

So rather than saying that the "pickup game" is sexist, I would just say that it is inappropriate at an event where the participants are ostensibly there for professional reasons, no matter if you're male, female, gay or straight

Re:Things You Think Aren’t Sexist, But Really Are by reso on Monday March 25, 2013 @04:22PM (#5439470)
I think you've made an important distinction here. An action is sexist if it is a material discrimination against a person because of their gender. However, there are emergent patterns in environments with large gender-asymmetries which cause one gender to have a very different experience than the other.

One man making an advance on a woman might be okay, but several making the same advance on the same day is going to become very uncomfortable. Do we call this sexist? No individual is making any action to cause discrimination, there are simply environmental factors that create an imbalance.

I think a lot of the issues surrounding women in tech are emergent from this asymmetry, and not strictly "sexism" as I have defined it above.

Re:Things You Think Aren’t Sexist, But Really Are by ruthburr on Monday March 25, 2013 @04:27PM (#5439503)
Hi guys, a lot of people have made the point that the behaviors that I'm calling out are not so much "sexist" as they are inappropriate, sexual and in general skewed toward women. I agree, "sexist" may not capture all of the shades of meaning I address in the post. Inappropriate captures it better. I'll jump in and update the post to say as much later today. Really appreciate your thoughtful responses.
Re:Things You Think Aren’t Sexist, But Really Are by MetaCosm on Monday March 25, 2013 @05:21PM (#5439774)
Not to mention that conference generally generate a lot of "sex" -- the result of a successful mutually acceptable pickup. I personally know of two marriages with 5 "by products" of conferences.

There are some good points in that post, but they get watered down by the much weaker less thought out ones.