They are not comparable.

Sure that one particular flurry of dick jokes passed in a few moments. Pervasive juvenile humor is part of a culture and environment that is hostile and alienating to so many. If you don't find that environment hostile and alienating, good for you! Not everyone is going to be exactly like you.

Seriously, if childish little jokes are so damn important, they can wait until the proper context. They'll still be exactly as funny a little bit later in a more appropriate venue.

Seriously, if you think dick jokes are childish consider how much adult money they've made for adult comedians making adults laugh.

Sure, you can censor people - but by the time you succeed in building your dream environment you'll only be surrounded by un-imaginative, un-courageous, do-nothing yes-men and that's exactly what you'll deserve. And no, the dick-jokes themselves are not that important. Freedom to be yourself though? Priceless.

My dream environment is one where everyone is aware enough to know that immature dick jokes might not be a welcome contribution to everyone within earshot. The same way that most people just know that cigarette smoke isn't a welcome contribution to everyone sharing the same air.

Be as edgy and imaginative and courageous as you want, on your own time. Thanks.

I don't think I'm misunderstanding you at all. You said that "juvenile" humor is pervasive. Wouldn't that indicate that the general consensus is that this type of humor is OK?

Let's get it straight - the (very small) minority here want to make the environment more comfortable for themselves.

(Also, nobody has ever explained to me why a joke or even a conversation about this one particular body part qualifies as "juvenile".)

Here you go:

Not all jokes or conversations about one particular body part are juvenile. The one in question was. I don't think any reasonable person would dispute that, even the guy who unfortunately lost his job over it. He's not exactly standing behind his joke as the pinnacle of human creativity and expressiveness.

If your senses of decorum and humor have not yet matured to the point where you can tell juvenile and inappropriate behavior from the sort of thing that is OK in a professional context like an office or a convention hall, I legitimately feel sorry for you. It must be very difficult to go through life like that.

You still haven't answered the question though. And do please refrain from the ad-hominem arguments.

I haven't answered the question because the whole premise is flawed. You're asking why it's never appropriate to discuss some body parts, but that's not true.

Extremely personal real world example: I had a urethral stricture biopsy done years and years ago (I'm OK now). Discussions in that context get clinical and professional very quickly. Nobody is making any snickering jokes in the operating room.

My mistake for being ambiguous.

Call me a prude if you want but it does mean that I will likely never be in the position of the two men who achieved infamy at pycon. I may achieve infamy for other reasons but not that one.

So when I am at an event representing my company I act on my best behaviour. It's called basic professional conduct.

How about just talking about penises? You know, just a normal conversation out loud, in a train full of people...about our penises. Is that really juvenile...or something else?

(Or, you know, just downvote me because you don't like people questioning things that you accept to be true.)

Whether these particulars qualify as such a situation is open to discussion. But it's not some new social phenomenon.

affirmative action is wrong. always. that's the reason racism/sexism/etc exist in the first place.

everyone who feels superior donating to those causes are misguided egoistics.

This is...almost certainly trolling, right?

If I want to make a scholarship for kids interested in history, particularly if such kids are rare and poorly supported, I'm not being bigoted against other kids.

Also, if you want to sound smart, do the work. Excluding usa, most forms of slavery thought history was not based on skin color.

But, yeah, rest of the world, whatever.