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Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by YuriNiyazov on Sunday March 24, 2013 @05:54PM (#5433887)
Meh. I am not impressed by this teardown. There are many factors in this situation that one can argue about, but the one that to me is unarguably completely damning towards Adria's actions is this one:

She posted a picture of many men. One of them is smiling at the camera. It just so happens that his smile happens to have that naughty "heh heh heh, did you hear that sick joke I just made?" look. Almost everyone on the Internet, me included, thought that the guy smiling was the perp. Turns out that it wasn't actually him at all, and that the perp is actually the guy on the left side of the picture.

Regardless of what we may think of public shaming, or of what her role used to be at Sendgrid - Adria should've foreseen that everyone would think the smiling guy would be the suspect.

She publicly shamed the wrong guy!

She didn't deserve the rape and death threats, but to leave what she did without any consequences to her would be inappropriate, to say the least.

Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by misnome on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:03PM (#5433944)
It wasn't him? The one, obvious, center of attention of the photograph? That makes it even worse!
Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by YuriNiyazov on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:05PM (#5433958)
See what I mean? No, it's the guy in the grey shirt staring off.
Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by YuriNiyazov on Monday March 25, 2013 @06:26PM (#5440115)
Apparently not. It's the other guy wearing the PH shirt, on way far out in the picture.
Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by anigbrowl on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:09PM (#5433982)
the perp is actually the guy on the left side of the picture

I think it was the guy on the right, after initially making the same mistake as you about the grinning individual in the middle. From start to finish finish, the whole episode is just one poor decision on top of another, by everyone involved.

Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by YuriNiyazov on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:14PM (#5434012)
Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by anigbrowl on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:24PM (#5434062)
...which I think is also wrong. the person sitting to the left of Reid (not to the left of the picture) is also wearing a PlayHaven shirt, which is what was described in the offending blog post. I don't really feel like revisiting the whole thing, but I'll bet $5 that the fellow in the grey shirt is not 'Mr-Hank.'
Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by YuriNiyazov on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:33PM (#5434102)
You may very well be right. All the more damning to her.
Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by zshprompt on Monday March 25, 2013 @03:34PM (#5439160)
he is. I found him and he was indeed fired.
Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by gaylemcd on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:19PM (#5434037)
Have you read the article? I agree that Adria screwed up here. Absolutely.

However, Amanda Blum paints a pattern of behavior that just isn't there when you really read into those stories. THAT is what the "teardown" is about. It's not saying that Adria did nothing wrong.

Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by YuriNiyazov on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:24PM (#5434057)
Yea I did. I think you did a poor job of defending her in the case of the podcast. From TFA:

"In the blog post, Adria even admitted that she made a mistake in mentioning it on her podcast prior to talking with the organizers, and apologized for doing so."

In that case, she did something wrong and apologized for it, and there wasn't a public shit-storm. In this case, before she had an opportunity to really apologize, she got attacked by the Internet. So, AFAICT, there are two publically known instances of her doing something wrong, and doing something wrong in the exact same way: "going to the public before confronting someone privately". How many times do you need before it's a pattern?

Edit: clarification

Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by gaylemcd on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:33PM (#5434104)
To be clear, what she did was this: she saw something she thought was utterly vile and morally reprehensible being seemingly "celebrated" in a talk. The talk wasn't necessarily happening yet; it was still being voted on. She mentioned in her podcast that there was a talk on this and suggested that her listeners vote on it.

Suppose the talk referenced something about how to beat your wife. Do you think it would have been so terrible to handle it that way?

Sure, maybe it's better to talk to the organizers together. But come on, surely you can understand why one might handle it that way -- especially since the talks were still being voted on it.

If this was wrong, it was only a very mild transgression. It does not form a pattern.

Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by MetaCosm on Sunday March 24, 2013 @07:06PM (#5434237)
Where does it end? If a religious person is deeply offended by a talk that references "My Two Dads" -- should that talk be banned? Should references to evolution, gay rights, anything that might offend anyone be banned?

Being offended DOES NOT GIVE YOU RIGHTS, it is just you being offended, get over it.

Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by dalke on Sunday March 24, 2013 @11:04PM (#5435126)
Voting a talk up or down is not the same as banning.

Voting is an indication that some subgroup of people have a specific view, either positive or negative, towards a talk. The selection committee can use that information to guide their selection. They may even go back to the person and point out that while the talk content is very appropriate, it's structured in such a way that incidental aspects (eg, a joke about "Hans Reiser killing women attendees" at a talk at linux.conf.au) will detract from the talk and blunt the actual content.

Or they may decide that the content is important enough to override the vote.

You are right, by the way. In the US context, being offended goes not give anyone rights. What gives people rights is the law. The law prohibits discrimination in the workplace based on sex, the laws says that sexual harassment is a form of discrimination based on sex, the law says that frequent and unwanted dirty jokes at the workplace can be a form of sexual harassment, and the law says that if someone doesn't like dirty jokes in the workplace then the first step is to file a complaint. And the law gives wide latitude to what the complaint can be, including making a complaint in public, and says that making a complaint gives extra protections against retaliation.

So no, being offended does not give people rights. Civil rights laws give people rights.

As to your examples, the law does not say that references to evolution, gay rights, etc. are in violation of the laws against discrimination in the workplace. However, if the only Young Earth Creationist in the company was always singled out as the person to write the "earth geology" transcripts, and there was no special business reason why that Y.E.C. should be singled out, then that Y.E.C may file a complaint for discrimination based on religious beliefs.

Because singling out someone in the workplace based on their religious belief is against the law.

Re:That Amanda Blum Article on Adria Richards is Not What It... by YuriNiyazov on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:37PM (#5434124)
"If this was wrong" - well, since she later admitted it was wrong and apologized for it, then yea - it was wrong.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the mildness of the transgression and pattern-forming.